My theory

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Wrong un, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Wro

    Wrong un Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    My theory is that the new owners didnt offer him the wages near what he has been offered elsewhere. Hes mentioned in a few interviews that players coming here should come for other reasons than just money, so clearly the new owners are fairly money savvy which is understandable considering they said they would slowly increase the investment over time. I feel as though the owners offered him a contract that simply wasnt good enough, hecky wanted more but the owners wouldnt budge, leeds come enquiring about a manager position and he signed the contract with a release claus knowing leeds would buy it out. The new owners are clearly a bit naive as 500k is nothing in todays market. The owners have a lot to learn about running a football club.
     
  2. Mapplewell Red

    Mapplewell Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    1,268
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    They’ve dodged a bullet as he would’ve been hauled into the boardroom to receive his marching orders by the end of the month and then they would’ve had the fact that they’ve sacked “one of our own” hanging over them.

    We’ve been absolutely awful for a good 12 months. I think it’s definitely time for a change and I also think that a pair of fresh eyes and new ideas will do us the world of good in the coming months.
     
  3. red

    redrum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    7,663
    Likes Received:
    931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    Yes.
     
  4. Wro

    Wrong un Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yes could definitely be a blessing in disguise, time will tell I suppose
     
  5. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    26,916
    Likes Received:
    2,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fidel's Bedside
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    We will know in May

    If th
     
    Kettlewell likes this.
  6. Mapplewell Red

    Mapplewell Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    1,268
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The next appointment is crucial. It’s in essence a £6million decision that the board are set to make. I imagine given the recent results that they’ve long had a shortlist drawn up so lets see what the coming days and weeks have in store.
     
  7. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    26,916
    Likes Received:
    2,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fidel's Bedside
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I doubt it
     
  8. Mapplewell Red

    Mapplewell Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    1,268
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Why not? Our record for the last year makes for awful reading. It makes perfect business sense to have a contingency plan in place or at least a rough sense of the direction that we’d take should PH leave by his own desire or otherwise.
     
  9. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    897
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    ok...well here's my theory.
    Not long ago that Nixon reporter bloke made a comment about been concerned when managers change their agents (he didnt actually elude to anything)...now we know!
    Next we have a gaffer sacked sunday night and the media circus knowing hecky was taking the job on monday ...the very next morning!...with his entourage of staff.
    This has been well thought out for a bit by hecky and the agent...the change of agent and contract were very orchestrated as we're its terms....I read somewhere (leeds end) that they were made aware of the buy out option etc etc which was far more easy to deal with than paying off contract negotiations!
    Also we have another 3/4 joining him from our backroom...no way did they just decide on that Monday am!!
    Sorry guys...Hecky and his agent have had this one simmering for a bit and no doubt he has discussed it with clapham and the rest.
    My only seed of doubt is that he has gone along with the transfers...who i am reasonably reliably informed were HIS choice.
     
  10. Red

    Red CB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2017
    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    hoyland common
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think your statement might be a bit naive when you say the owners have a lot to learn about running a football club , when they already have had reasonable success with the team they have been running in France for a while now
     
    Kettlewell and DusThaNoIII like this.
  11. Old Goat

    Old Goat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    568
    Likes Received:
    491
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Aye they'll have been expecting it. Probably got a list of potential replacements on a spreadsheet somewhere.
     
  12. PLOBBY

    PLOBBY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1,928
    Likes Received:
    568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    keep yer nose out
    Location:
    Cave
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    His new contract was worth 7k a week . I think that was ample and an improved contract . Lets not forget he'd have been sacked at any other club so he has got a lot to thank them for .
     
  13. RedKestrel

    RedKestrel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,622
    Likes Received:
    364
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    TAL
    Location:
    Danelagen
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Best post of the day..
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2018
  14. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    897
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Oooooh not to mention...how he deliberated over signing a new contract (until he then did it via a change if agent).
     
  15. Glo

    GloucesterRedsBigBro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    2,536
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    Retired Bus Driver
    Location:
    A, A
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Another one "in the know" regarding private contracts.
     
  16. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    26,916
    Likes Received:
    2,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fidel's Bedside
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    How much involvement do they have?
     
  17. Red

    Red CB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2017
    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    hoyland common
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I assume by owning the club & over seeing the running of the club they would have gleamed some knowledge , certainly enough not to be classed in the naive bracket
     
  18. Andy Mac

    Andy Mac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    5,723
    Likes Received:
    618
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    UC Consultant
    Location:
    Sweet home, Bingley.
    Home Page:
    My theory. Hecky went home in a nark after the Fulham match. Wife told him he doesn't get paid for that 5h1t ( arguing with fans). He thinks "she's got a point, I could get paid a lot more to take 5h1t". So he says to GG (who is greener than a green cabbage) "let's get this new contract signed". Gets himself a new agent to seal it in his favour. Deal with Leeds done almost in parallel.

    I reckon apart from making his mind up fairly sharpish that he was off, he decided also to make it as cruel as he could. Turned against us big time. Don't think the spat with the fan was the sole reason, but it was the tipping point.
     
    RunningRed and DusThaNoIII like this.
  19. Donny Red

    Donny Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    3,055
    Likes Received:
    1,498
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired.
    Location:
    Ossett.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He's gone from hero to zero inside 24 hours. Unfortunately now as toxic as Chris Morgan
    in some Reds fans eyes. He needs lessons in PR. He's handled his defection very badly.
     
  20. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    1,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leeds
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Don’t think it was an accident. This seems quite calculated to me.
     

Share This Page