Over 50s may be told to shield?

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  1. Shy Talk

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    And that is exactly what he's achieved. He is PM and Cummings runs the country.
     
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    Can't imagine the over 50s will lock themselves back up when they have behaved. Even more so for those in London who see how little the risk is....

     
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    769 in hospital in Engalnd, down from 886 last week.
     
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    An incredible statistic. So there’s on average, less than 1 COVID patient in every hospital in the UK.

    Can anyone justify the reason that NHS aren’t offering their usual full range of services?
     
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    My mistake, I’ve compared England patients with UK hospitals. There’s just over 1 patient per English hospital on average. Point still stands though.
     
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    They should have been from the start in my opinion. The Nightingale hospitals should be where the covid patients went and the actual hospitals should have carried on as normal. The number of indirect deaths from this, such as people dying because of missed or delayed cancer treatment, will far outweigh the deaths from covid when they have been totted up.
     
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    Thats not correct mate. I've got a partner in one of my businesses who is an investment banker for JP Morgan in Canary Wharf. They are all working from home with a skeleton crew in the office mainly supporting IT.

    Most of the financial sector are planning on having full time working from home, as they've found that productivity has increased.

    Additionally most of the banks have already farmed loads of jobs abroad due to Brexit.
     
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    Great news that is. Nothing is getting worse apart from the government handling with extra restraints on us that aren't needed. I reckon their thinking is to scare everyone so they can say if we take a vaccine everything can be lifted, as a way to tempt anti vaxers into agreeing.

     
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    I'm 55 & not really too concerned, despite being born with a hole & the heart & technically being high risk. I suspect the amount of alcohol consumed during lockdown may be more of a threat. On the plus side I've lost 15 kilos walking over 50 miles a week taking people's dogs out.
     
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    I think they are just being extra cautious now because they were taking so much criticism for a slow response at the start.
    Which is perfectly understandable and even reasonable. It's just the way it's being reported and presented that's wrong.
     
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    Yeah like today was a record Sunday low of 8 deaths confirmed and on news sites it's hidden further down below all the scare tactics articles MSM prefer to write.
     
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    My next door neighbour's brother succumbed to Cancer last week. He was early 70s I believe, life extending treatments cancelled in April and by the time he was seen basically told it was too late. Admittedly this is my neighbour's take and given his loss I certainly didn't want to press for more info.
    That's not to mention mental health, I was talking to someone from work today and apparently the beauty therapist his wife uses tried to commit suicide on Friday night after the news she could still not return to work.
    My wife who suffers from depression had to access the services recently (I don't really want to go in details) and while everyone was doing their best its simply not the same level of service. Luckily we have a great support network of family and friends and everyone has rallied round. I've spoke to a few members of the core team and they said they are incredibly busy. One also was saying how they are worried the telephone appointments just aren't suitable for many people with mental health issues.
     
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    It’s about time you can go ans see a doctor as well instead of these pointless telephone appointments.
     
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    I fear they are here to stay.
     
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    What's wrong with phone appointments? Allows doctors to get through far more patients in a day and doesn't hinder care in the slightest.

    Physical appointments are still possible, but the vast majority of cases don't require one.
     
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    Can only speak from personal experience but had some bad ones.

    My wife said the one from the core team didn't feel very helpful and was awkward discussing the issues over the phone.
    The one we had with dermatology at Sheffield childrens was terrible. Could barely hear them, then had to email them pictures of my sons skin but no more than 3 pics. (No idea why) followed by over a weeks wait for the prescription to make it's way to our GP then over the pharmacy.
     
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    I’ve only had a single experience with it during lockdown. My wife called iHeart and got an appointment, doctor phoned back at exactly the agreed time. She provided him with her symptoms, he gave her a few things to try to see if it improved or got worse. He then prescribed some medication which went to our local pharmacy and we picked it up less than an hour later.
     
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    Our GPs have actually been fairly decent in that sense too when we have needed things they have acted promptly.
    The larger departments at the hospital not so much. I will balance it by saying it's a new way of doing things so should improve over time.

    My personal opinion is that as more services get shoved onto telephone appointments, more people will fall through the cracks.
     
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    You can't diagnose most illness remotely. How the **** you check their temperiture or stick a thermomiter up their arse?
     

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