Question re =recruitment

I would hope that PH is the man who as the last word on who we sign.If he isn't who is.? I recall Patrick saying that Danny Wilson always had the final say in who we signed.If that's the case surely PH as the same criteria.If he hasn't I'm slightly worried.The manager should and must always have the final say on recruitment.A manager and coaching staff should be aware of every single player in this country not some bloke in a suit if that's whats happening.

 

What does final say mean though?

1. Which player do you want us to go and get for you Paul? - This sounds like first say to me and is very unlikely although I think that is what some people seem to think it means.

2. Do you want player X or player Y Paul? - If player X is horrendous at point 8 on a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being the worst) and player Y is 7, then he's going to choose player Y but it's not going to do him much good.

3. Do you want player Z Paul, or nobody? - If this is the case then he still gets the final say but it's a Hobson's choice.

 

If Paul Heckingbottom as the final say, why in his interview's (i would say at least 5 including his last one) say that we signed the same type of midfielder and he cant play them all.

Mallan, Mcgeehan, Moncur, Potts, although Potts can play in different positions. Same with the lack of striker he is looking for

I would guess that its the scouting team we have who decide on the players.

 

Reading between the lines - I think Hecky and the recruitment team put a list together - then it's up to Ganaye to get them over the line.

But it looks like there's been problems.

What's happened - as I can gather - is that say 6 midfielders are targeted with the intention of signing 2 of them.
And say 7 strikers are targeted hoping to sign 3 of them.

But what's happened in practice - is that instead of getting 2 midfielders we got 5.
And instead of getting 3 strikers we got just one.
To add to this - they were brought in late.

I think recruitment on the whole has been good in that we have got some good players in.
On the other hand - it's an unbalanced squad.

IMO - jury is out on whether Ganaye is up to the task.

 

As said above it very much depends what is ment by the final say

 

Nope.
It's from listening to the Hecky interview from last week - and the interviews during the summer transfer window.

When Hecky says .......... we have recruited too many midfielders but we are short of striker options. And the players have been brought in late.
Then IMO - we have recruited too many midfielders but we are short of striker options - and the players have been brought in late.

 

It's quite simple to me Gally.

They gather information about different players via different means. Agents Scouts and the statistics like most clubs do then the head coach will pick who he wants. That's how it works. It's how they mentioned it was a few months ago.

Heckingbottom contradicts what he says. He said totally different things. Self-preservation.

 

If Hecky was hands on with transfers, we wouldn't be Spackman-esque with midfielders. He also wouldn't have had to make yesterday's jibe about illustrating the type of forward he needs by putting centre halves up front.

 

He decided he didn't like a French person at the helm, and made commemts about if we weren't going to recruit from France it should be an Englishman. We then signed a French striker and got an owner with a significant investment in French football, so he's now trying to justify his bigotry in other ways.

 

I can't see GG having a massive influence on it Gally because I don't think he's a football person. He might have a few links to people from France. Say friends that can say he's a good player or this guy doing well in Ligue 2.

Ben Mansford say will have seen 1000's of players and have links to people that can get them. He was a Football person first with a law degree wheres Gauthiers a business first person. For me I've little expectations on him been able to suggest players or whatever but he needs to be **** hot at getting the business part of the deal done.

 

Are you man enough yet to respond to your lies about hecky being the only manager to fail to win in 10 games?

 

At the time of Ben Mansford joining Barnsley he was a football agent. He was part of a number of deals. Peter Beagrie had spoken about him on Live TV an praised him for what he'd done as a agent for him. He then was a highish profile agent with some good players Fabian Delph. What I'm trying to say is he spent time around footballers, football people and will have had to watch Football at different levels.

For me Gauthiers a Business person. Non of his roles have been directly linked to football even though he's been with a football team before. He was Marketing and development director before joining Barnsley.

 

The more you talk, the more you reveal that you know **** all about anything.