so bent people can get married now

Context. Although I don't know why I'm bothering to waste the bytes.

 

Why should a small section of society i.e the church have any large influence over society.

 

But we do though. This irrelevant relic is constantly consulted.

BTW, I don't have an issue with individuals having faith.

 

Chortle

 

This is true and perfectly legitimate; It just seems that most (not all) folk opposing are using traditions and/or religion as a reason of opposition. Why?

Passing a law that legalises gay marriages effects neither.. Churches do not have to marry gay couples if they don't want to. its just bringing more equality to the table that's all;
homosexual people now have the right to get married if they want to whether its in a church or not. Gays can get married in a town hall or whatever and live their life married and happy, religion doest even have to come in to it.

As for tradition! well their are hundreds of traditions that we don't adhere to any more, some parts of Spain have banned bull fighting, that's a tradition... And please tell me what's so traditional about not allowing to people of the same sex to be married?

 

No, you said you want them to leave you alone and as long as it's compulsory it's fine. I don't remember anyone suggesting that they would either be interested in hassling you or push for homosexuality to be made compulsory. Therefore I'm genuinely interested as to why you would think these things might be possible.

 

Not true. Vast majority of scientific community agrees homosexuality has firm genetic basis. Some Christians believe 'the jury is still out' on evolution, too.

 

'Bent' is also slang for dishonest or criminal. 'Straight' is the opposite in that context too. I don't think being gay is illegal anymore, they are allowed to vote too. It's not unusual for minority groups to re-claim offensive words, but it does not give every one the licence to use them. Though I do think Xerxes should reclaim 'gay' and use it at every opportunity.

Someone once told me 'bent' was a term used by Nazi persecutors, hence the play and film title.

It does sound derogatory and antagonistic. Go on a gay chat room and test the water.

 

i dont think the church bit is anything to do with the marriage thats just the smoke and mirrors thats the bit that ( insert relideon here ) can say thats not happening here , its the signing of the register that counts which has got to hold a license to hold ceromonies. ( think oakwells got one)

 

That was my point. Once it is legislation how can they guarantee that they won't end up being prosecuted. I cant see how the two can be mutually compatible in a society as litigious as ours.

 

They don't, people chose to get married in them, there is no obligation to do so. Gay couples can have civil ceremonies which I don’t have a problem with but I can't agree that gay marriage is a step in the right direction.

 

Wrong !

Unless you are just expressing an opinion of course.

I believe he does exist, others have different opinions and they are welcome to them.

 

The problem with a belief in biological determinism is it CAN be used to justify all manor of eugenics ideas not to mention deviant behaviour.

 

nowhere did i say i thought they were possible, and i dont think they're possible, i never said they were hassling me so therefore should leave me aloneor ever have, so i dont know where you get that from, and as i said so long as its not made compusory a gay couple can do whatever they legally want, within the bounds of common decency just like a straight couple. now if you'd like to infer someother stuff that i havent said or meant or nitpick feel free

 

In what way does not being able to have a traditional marriage 'oppress' people? Have you got the first idea what real oppression really is. And don’t make assumptions about me; I am far from a bigot, and not sharing your view on a subject does not qualify me as one. Is that your opinion of anybody who does not share your utopian values of inclusion.

 

'That was my point. Once it is legislation how can they guarantee that they won't end up being prosecuted. I cant see how the two can be mutually compatible in a society as litigious as ours.'

They can't guarantee this, indeed I believe several Human Rights lawyers (naturally) have already stated that this issue will in time become the subject of legal challenge, and the church will inevitably lose. This is actually an example of inequality, which in turn creates growing resentment and greater division, which is of course the polar opposite of what the equality movement originally set out to achieve.

 

Cheers r kid. Just reminded me that Utopia is on ch4 tonight. At 10 for anybody interested in getting away from this tedious thread for a while.

 

Will the Bigamy Laws apply to Gay marriages?

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