Sorry all ...but Brexit

I voted remain in the referendum.

I vote Labour under Corbyn. Their values, policies and vision sits well with me.

So of course I voted Labour tonight. Because this wasn't a second referendum.

It was a vote to put folk in the European Parliament who I think will do the best job that sits well with me.

 

As I posted in the other thread, Corbett and Todd are very pro-EU, its just that the great leader is anti-EU. Most of the party members, MPs and voters are pro-EU.

 

It amazes me how many people don’t seem to get that.

 

Europe as a continent has a population of 550m.

The European Union is a poltical body made up of representatives from countries within Europe. It produces nothing.

 

On a lighter note. Returning home today after an enjoyable few days on the East Coast at a cottage
at the Bay Holiday village in Filey. "Gods own County " is beautiful at this time of the year. A mixture
of stunning views , lush grass , trees and arable farmland.

Enjoyable days spent in Whitby, Sewerby, Bridlington and Scarborough. Some of the fresh fish I've
eaten this week has been delicious and the Thwaites beers I've had in the John Paul Jones
pub on the site were very moorish. Prices a bit steep mind. Barmaid asked me for a tenner last night
for a pint and a glass of red wine. Remarked to my wife ,that even Dick Turpin had the decency to wear
a mask.!

Going into Filey this morning and taking our Lhasa Apso onto a beach for his first time in his life,before
heading to Beverley for coffee and some " snap".

My mood this morning has been considerably lightened. Later today we apparently get to know the precise
leaving date of probably the worst Prime Minister the UK has ever had. The perfect end to a memorable
week. Back home tonight. Now looking forward to hearing about any new signings as we hopefully embark
on a successful season back in the Championship.

 

OK...since I posted the origin of this thread we've moved on, in the post I asked when will Tereeza May actually do the decent thing and resign with no strings or trade off's, were now told today that "It feels like the end" for her.....BUT this is now being touted as the day she will TELL us the day she may go...it could go something like this

I'm going
I mean it
I'm in the hallway
I'm at the door
Last chance, i'm opening the door
I've gone....I'm closing the door
(Door closes)
(muffled) I'm still here...…...

 

George??

 

No Vesp. Must say though like many, I miss his musings. Very entertaining.

 

It's how I voted it's just I can't for the life of me work out what the Labour party actually stand for at the moment. So I've voted Lib Dem the last 2 times as they clearly state they want to remain. Sadly due to our awful FPTP system in a general election living in Banrsley tends to mean your vote is worthless.

 

At what point does everybody stop being surprised that in a country where 52% of a referendum voted for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit, lots of people are also prepared to vote for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit Party?
I am genuinely trying to understand what the Brexit Party stands FOR rather than against? Education, housing, social care? Health? We are in a dark place when we are voting for literally one process and ignoring the important outcomes.,

 

But which Labour Party are you supporting... its just as split as the Tories, this Country and the rest of Europe.
Blairite Globalist vs Corbyn's beer and sandwiches gang... These fractions are as far apart as anyone.

 

Mays done . 7 th of June .........

 

7th June shall now be known as: Theresa May Day

Dress as your favourite politician.

Tory party is shot to pieces, what a joke.

 

She will not be missed.
Bubbling outside no10. Total drama queen.

 

I think his views are probably a little more nuanced. Sure, economically he's bound to be anti-EU as it's mainly a neo-liberal economic movement, albeit with some fuzzy parts round the edge. I suspect Corbyn dislikes stuff like the repression of wages in favour of low paid work for incoming EU Nationals, which has had a negative effect on UK workers. I suspect he quite likes the EU socially and in some other areas like workers rights and the environment which are half decent. Don't forget Corbyn doesn't decide policy at the end of the day, Labour members do.

 

Thanks BFC Dave. Us 'Leavers' have always been accused of not knowing what the implications of actually leaving would be. I think the same can be said of the 'Remainers' - like any other organisation the EU can change radically - there's no way of knowing what the politics of the EU will be after these elections

 

My number one reason for voting remain was having zero faith in the shower at Westminster to sort a exit out. So it has proved to be, the amount of time and money spent on this will be staggering regardless of the outcome

 

One of the most satisfying things about the internet is that peoples language defies their source of 'information'.

The use of the word 'globalist' happily leads me to 'ignore this one - he's been reading American right wing nutcase sites'

 

Recent history?
The make up of the EU is politically a little more radical than that of it's member countries, however, the 'leadership' of it is bang in the centre of the EU's politics. There's a growing right wing movement across the EU - but that's taken hold in the UK as much as anywhere else*. But looking at the glacial shift in the EU since the 70's it's daft to assume it'll radically change overnight.

* It appears the answer to 'how long does it take to forget the lessons learnt in the 2nd world war' is about 75 years. Sadly the older generation were the first to forget - the youth do appear to be largely holding on for now.