Thanks Keir

You aren't wrong there. Have a look at some of these You Gov polls being done today and see how much in agreement people are with having more freedom removed from their lives.

 

Jesus Christ. Wibble wibble. If Tory-lite is a bad thing, which would you choose from 'Full Tory', or Tory-lite? Or would you rather Starker positioned himself further left, and was crucified by the press for five years? It's about electability.

 

It’s been happening years but burying it in other bad news seems to help the Tory’s for some reason some voters seem to think they have the country at heart despite shafting it for all it’s worth for selfish gain.
All the little shytes in their counting houses when alerted the peasants are revolting instruct their henchmen to mention Brexit or other lies .

 

For anyone interested, I can recommend the new book "Left Out" by Gabriel Pogrund and Patrick Maguire, which covers the running of the party under Corbyn's leadership.

It is exceptionally well researched, and uses interviews with many of those involved in the running of the party at the time (from both sides of the party), many of whom were 'in the room' at key moments. For example, for a book which provides such a damning insight into the party at that time, I was surprised to see that Karie Murphy was a key contributor, so it's hard to argue that the content is inherently biased.

For a political book, it was hard to put down.

 

Kier Starmer will find it very difficult to be elected as PM - as he pushed for another Brexit vote.
The general public will be reminded of that come the next general election.

Starmer is trying to salvage something from the disastrous Corbyn experiment.
Due to Corbyn the Labour Party has been holed below the water line and is a sinking ship - it’s no longer relevant - so Starmer is going to find it very difficult to turn things around.

There isn’t one single party in Parliament that represents my views.
But Boris is closer to my views than Starmer is.

 

Terrible decision to put Starmer in charge, Londoner, no idea about the rest of the country, I've voted Labour all my adult life, never again I'm afraid this Labour party is for the well heeled professionals not for the working man/woman

 

Just why is the serial liar .Love Cheat ,useless and worst prime minister in last two centuries , promise everything give nothing uncaring, unprincipled Prime minister nearer to your views ?

 

Because the majority on here are completely anti-Boris and he likes to position himself at the point where he gets most arguments and attention.

He, from what I understand, apologies for any inaccuracy, is a proud former yorkshire miner; so I find it very difficult to believe he’s a Tory.

I find it easier to believe he’s on another wind up fishing for an argument.

 

He just is.
BTW - have you already forgotten Theresa May and John Major.
Not to mention Thatcher.

 

So that’s Boris doing for our area that they didn’t?

 

Winning over voters.

 

add Cameron to that list as well and no I haven’t forgotten any of them , how could I ? they have been masterminds behind many of my friends and family’s downfalls .
The Tory’s have despised working class communities for years , hating the solidarity that has kept them together for years .

 

With lies and unachievable aims and the madness carries on with more lies and deceit and the same voters eating their shyt

 

Amazing when Labour's policies whether left, left centre or centre always try and make lives better.

 

He's someone who's travelled around for education and work. He's not your typical MP, he gets it. He's also worked on the front line and managed one of the toughest departments in the country. Sorry just cos he was born in London doesnt make him out of touch.

Look he's more centrist than me but he's a million times more qualified than the entire current cabinet combined. He's also in my mind going to appeal to the wider demographic.

 

People who say Starmer is tory lite and he doesn't get working class people really need to do their homework. He might be a sir now but he came from a very humble background and worked hard to get to where he is today.

Starmer may be a londoner but he studied at the university of leeds and I believe his wife is from Doncaster.

His politics may not sit well with the more left wing amongst us but he's centre left not right wing far from it.

You can't win if your far left as we saw in December people just don't want or trust it which is sad but true unfortunately.

 

This....You can't have a go at folk for where they are from, it's how they're brought up.
How many ex Barnsley folk live and work in London? How many hold good jobs? Quite a few I bet.
The current cabinet would likely be the ones who wouldn't employer you in London because you have a funny Yorkshire accent, you don't come from good stock and haven't got links to their big business friends.

 

He didnt say that

 

Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017, to be fair. 40% of the country wanted the so-called 'extreme' left to run the country. But the 42% voting Tory won out. About as ambiguous as the Brexit vote. But that's the voting process in this country for you. Another story is that.

But that 40% was on par with Blair in 2001, more than Blair in 2005, more than Brown in 2010 and more than Miliband in 2015. Hardly a 'kicking'.

2019 though, was indeed a kicking.

I accept a new approach is thus needed and I completely understand the reasons behind Starmer's. I hope it works out. I'm a member of the party after all.