The charts are officially a joke

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  1. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    In the official top 40 singles chart this week end sheeran is at numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18 and 19.

    Time they either changed the system completely or scrapped it.
     
  2. DusThaNoIII

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    Just don't listen to the charts? There's a chance it's not for you or me and therefore we don't get an opinion
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    I don't listen to the chart show itself but i do like a lot of chart music (usually on in the background at work) but I just think that him being in a many slots at nice just shoot as that the official charts have lost their way a little and are calculating positions falsely.
     
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    Have you bought a single this week? I've not bought a single in about 15 years. If you want change get buying singles!
     
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    No I haven't. I don't think I've ever bought a single
    My point was that their algorithm is flawed. There used to be a lot of rules stating what can be released as a single, it had to have a minimum price, contain a minimum and maximum amount of music, contain no freebies etc etc. Ed has basically released his album on iTunes and because people are downloading songs individually for a few pence each they all get into the charts. That for me is a flawed system and be which the consumer cannot change because it isn't a problem with the consumer buying the wrong thing it's the wrong things being included in the calculations.

    Not that I'm particularly bothered enough to spend more than a few seconds thing 'well they're ******'
     
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    Look on the bright side. At least Cliff Richard isn't in the top 10.
     
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    If that's what's been sold that's what's been sold. How would you change system
     
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    Chart fixing went on in the past , and was a serious criminal business . It first broke ( to my knowledge ) in 1971 .
    Google Janie Jones....Payola Scandal
    This link is interesting....https://scepticpeg.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/the-bbc-payola-scandal/
    On reading it now , it's a lot more serious than it seemed at the time....mainly because the Savile aspect was covered up . Going from memory they were trying to fix the charts for an Aussie band called New World ( the band themselves were completely innocent) .
    The Clash wrote a song called "Janie Jones " covered by Babyshambles a few years ago .
     
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    Reinstate the rigid criteria to stop downloads from individual songs off an album from being included.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    Don't know enough aboutot. I thought it was just a record of sales
     
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    I don't know the solution, but the system does need changing. Without looking up the actual facts, I'm sure it was Crazy by Gnarls Barclay that went straight to No.1 on downloads only BEFORE it had even been officially released (or something like that).
    Point being, in the early 80s, you had to sell 200,000+ to achieve a No.1 single, whereas now, it can be achieved on as little as 4000.
     
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    This is the first time it has happened though isn't it?

    Before Ed Sheeran, only Justin Bieber had been at numbers 1, 2, and 3 at the same time previously.

    Isn't it all based on downloads now so I imagine it's to do with his new album being released?

    Sent from space using satellites and things
     
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    I must confess to not listening to the radio much but when i do its generally absolute radio, usually there 80s digital station, so i dont particularly know what classes as chart music these days.
    However whenever i have to take my daughter anywhere she automatically switches capital on. The few tracks i get to hear are either cover versions, covers of cover versions or just noise(possibly my age has something to do with it).
    Maybe the chart system is flawed but surely it also speaks volumes of the complete lack of song writing talent around these days that one guy can be so dominant in the top 20
     
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    I'm going to sound like me Favva now, but they just don't write classics any more. How many songs, out now, will still make you turn the radio up in 20 years time? Probably none. Even my kids recognise Rolling Stones, Kinks etc when even I wasn't born when they were at their height.
     
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    Should never have been changed and streams shouldn't count as sales towards a chart position.
     
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    I couldn't name an Ed Sheeran song if you held a gun to my head. Strikes me as a bit of a git.
     
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    It used to be but now it includes downloads fro
    Are you still sulking because one direction split up?
     
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    There's one that you would recognise- can't think what it's called but it's a bit of a wedding song.

    Comes across as a nice bloke to me. Zero interest in his music though.
     
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    Now I'm intrigued which one you mean.

    Possibly Thinking out loud?
    Darling I will, be loving you till, we're seventy

    It's definitely a bit of a first dance song
     
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    Checked on YouTube and its Thinking Out Loud but I thought it was called summat like Into Your Loving Arms.

    1m% not my thing.
     
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