The Chris Corke thing.........it has put a lot of people in a very awkward position

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  1. Ali

    Alityke Active Member

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    Definition of perverted

    Deviating from what is considered right and correct

    A pervert is therefore one who deviates from what is considered right & correct

    So the usage of pervert wasnt loose but correct.

    If your playing sematics carry on. A strange thing to do as it appears to be being used to defend a convicted paedophile who has been convicted on 2 occasions. On this second occasion on 16 charges according to todays media report if I understood it correctly
     
  2. Jay

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    Totally agree
     
  3. Eut

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    RE: check number 10 , I think this puts my case for me.

    In what way?
     
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    Eutychus Active Member

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    RE: You absolute fool nt

    Well argued again
     
  5. Jay

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    No he doesn't

    Nudger is just giving his opinion on the subject, he hasn't done anything wrong. There's far too much finger pointing going on when there is only one person that has offended.
     
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    kanecat Banned Idiot

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    RE: You absolute fool nt

    Yes i was quite pleased with that.
    Do us a favour and log off, or maybe even go round to CC's house and offer your support
     
  7. Ali

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    Christian values still exist

    which is good to know

    But despite having sympathy that mans children

    'Fool me once, more fool you
    Fool me twice, more fool me'

    Think most will now acknowledge what that man really is
     
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    Berserker New Member

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    I'm not going to argue with you, tou're right, that's why I feel such a lovely person!.. nt
     
  9. Ali

    Alityke Active Member

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    Everyone makes mistakes

    its how you act after making one that is part of todays issue isnt it?

    Fess up - done
    admit to error - done
    Move on & dont make it again- get on wi it!
     
  10. Micky Finn

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    RE: Mind boggling nt

    Ali, without taking sides here, I think what he means is that acts once considered 'perverted' can now be practised between consenting partners without anyone batting an eyelid.
     
  11. Eut

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    RE: check number 10 , I think this puts my case for me.

    Alright then, he's a pervert.

    He's deviated from what's "right and correct".

    Strictly speaking then we're all perverts.

    Apart from all the sanctimonious lynch mobbers on here.

    Labels get you nowhere.
     
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    Don't think citing Christian values is wise given the Catholic church's record...

    Of covering up numerous and abhorent acts against children in their care far worse than anything debated on here today
     
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    When I read MOST of the above posts............it reminds me of

    watching a part of an old Frankenstein film when I was a kid
    The part where all the village is a hysterical mob chasing after him

    OK, we know CC has done something terrible
    His family and freinds such as the London Tykes must be in shock, I know I'm shocked and I hardly know the guy
    Therefore........sympathy to CCs family and friends

    Today there has been news of a guy stabbing his two children with a knife 20 + times
    This guy then tried to kill himself.........do people want him to (as the board puts it) be strung up
    Because I wouldn't. This bloke had obviously something wrong with him, no stable minded person acts in this way.

    As far as I am concerned CC comes into this 'sort of' catogory
    I think there should be no hatred towards CC just a feeling of sorrow that the bloke is in such mental turmoil that makes him do these things
    This in no way excuses CC. The authorities that know how to deal with these issues need to make sure that CCs problems are solved.
     
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    RE: Ah well, you made an error of judgement

    It's one I won't make again. Lesson well and truly learned. Feel like a right ****.
     
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    Sorry Nudge but I cant agree

    You are missing something - Real children are ruined horribly abused - funded by the likes of Corke
    I dont support the idea of a Lynch mob either but the fact that he has re-offended whilst still under probation means I dont think your last statement is true
     
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    Nudger 2 things

    1st, the guy did not kill himself, he failed to do it, He slit his wrists but was found before he died.
    2 nd CC is not worthy of any sympathy or sorrow. He has had his second chance and blown it, this latest episode took place in FEBRUARY , yet he has not told any of his "friends" about it. Dont even try to reply again, because it sounds like you are trying to make excuses for him, if so you are becoming as bad as he is.
     
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    the thing is with sexual crimes

    is that they are often on a spectrum or at least the offender is often on a spectrum.

    You say that a "serial rapist" is mentally ill, but the fact is the majority of serial rapists begin with voyeuristic behaviour, flashing for example.

    There comes a point where this no longer gives them sexual gratification and control and so they move on and "up" the spectrum.

    In my opinion, the guy is "mentally ill" (whatever that is) and unless he comes to realise the nature of his crimes then he is capable of doing a lot more damage.

    I find it incredible that people found guilty of committing such crimes are allowed back into society without closer supervision and rehabilitation.
     
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    RE: Nudger 2 things

    I don't think that YN is trying to defend him really...
    His point of view is a bit too "compassionate" (don't know if that's the word that I'm looking for!) in my opinion too, but there's no need to blame him for anything, it's not his fault that CC did whatever he did!
     
  19. ark

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    Can I just stress that my post

    Was not defending the individual but criticsing the use of christian morals to attack him given the catholic church's appalling track record of systematic abise and cover up of child abuse.

    I don't know, was aware of any of the histroy or am trying to defend the individual. He deserves no sympathy, although my view would be his family do. He should be dealt with by the justice system and not mob law.

    My only view would be if we simply demonise paedophiles and don't try and understand the reasons why this will not help us stop it. Its abhorent, unacceptable, disturbing and shocking, but if the authorities simply dismiss an offender as being a "monster" they will never find ways of establishing what makes paedophiles think in this unacceptable way and consequently won't be able to stop it happening. If understanding the root cause can save only one child then surely it would be worth the investment
     
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    RE: Can I just stress that my post

    look for the root cause all you want.you'll never find it.
    some people are just wrong.doesn't matter if it s torturing people,murdering people,getting off on kids,the list could go on forever.
    bottom line is that its their thing that they get off on.
    as for CC.met the bloke once.he was sat across from my then 11 year old daughter at a family birthday dinner.
    this was before he got found out the 1st time.and i have to say i agree with all the people who say he is an arrogant egomaniac.
    with,as it turns out,an extremely sick and twisted streak inside him.
    back to point.some people are just poison.he is one of them.
    if i ever drop on the sick **** again i'll probably refrain from wailing on him as that will just get me in trouble but he will
    know that if he's still in my vicinity within a minute of being spotted then he'll wish he wasn't
    he doesn't even deserve that bit of leniency.
     

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