Let's say this season we finish 20th and he keeps his job. 20th position is a resounding failure but we will have avoided the ultimate insult of being in the fourth division. I said earlier in the season that our aims should be champions, runners up, play off winners - in that order. We are going to fall short of that by a thousand miles. The board, manager and players have failed. Based on what you have seen in the past nine and a half months from this manager, do you believe he can keep us up this season, then get us promoted next? If not, he is never going to be the right manager for us so there's really no point in persevering with him. Yesterday's result does not change this.