The sun's hypocrisy

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  1. Sup

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    Forgive me but I have just looked at the sun's website.

    Article published today: sick man arrested after posting a photo of a body from the London fire on Facebook. How sick the man is for doing it is mentioned several times.

    Article published today: first video from inside the tower including dead body. Splashed all over the sun's website.

    ******* lowlife hypocrites
     
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    Sun journos have been pretending to be injured to get access to the injured in hospitals.

    Hospital is making a complaint to the press regulator.
     
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    Anyone buying that rag should stop. Now.
     
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    IMG_1583.JPG I like this best.
     
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    You should know better. The Sun and hypocrisy go hand in hand. I am always at a loss to understand how anyone actually buys that piece of filth - its even worse than the mail
     
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    They aren't hypocrites just cnuts.
     
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    The daily snail yesterday emblazoned the headline, PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO'S FAULTY FRIDGE KILLED TENS OF PEOPLE.

    Then as an aside, midway down the article, it told of how the man had rang the fire brigade then ran around the building banging on doors to alert people.

    Classy as f*ck they are.

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    They're all at it. The metro had a headline 'first photo of body in tower block' the other day. How sick do you have to be to even write that?
    Another of our finest media had an headline along the lines of 'murderers holed up in £1m mansion while bodies lay on floor'. It turns out the £1m mansion is simply the house of the owner of the cladding company. The cladding which passed building regulations and is used up and down the country and throughout the world.

    The TV media are just as bad. Right from the first moment they've been trying to find someone to blame. No interest in finding comfort for the families. No interest in helping out. Who can we blame? They tried blaming the council, the cladding company, the renovation company. Everyone.

    Where were they playing the blame game when towers abroad caught fire?
     
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    I saw that second article, who the absolute f*ck would want to watch that video? Using 'including dead body' to try and get views.
     
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    And that's the problem with the British media. Twisting stories to fit an agenda rather than reporting facts. The tabloids are the worst but even the BBC does it to some extent
     
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    I think the people, media and the BBC particularly have already decided to blame May.. and an extension of her disastrous performance in the GE The comparisons on the BBC website of Corbyn visiting and then referencing the Queen "showing how it should be done" are really politicising the tragedy.
    Don't get me wrong, I think May is probably one of the weakest PMs we have had in my lifetime (including Major ) but whilst she was in the building talking to the residents the usual 'rent-a-mob' were outside stirring things up. She did not help her case by not even sending the housing minister in but the general mood at the time is to blame the present government for everything (including putting fire reg. legislation on the back burner, conveniently forgetting that successive govts, including Labour have tended to do the same. It is just that this negligence and apathy has come home to roost on May's watch-
    It is just that comparing May's apparent lack of compassion to teh response by the Queen and Corbyn is rather disingenuous. The Queen's role is to provide solidarity and support in times of national tragedy. Corbyn is an opposition leader with no power to respond except to protest and finger point.
    May has responded by releasing £5m of immediate emergency funding, calling a public enquiry and meeting with the most important people in the whole tragedy, the victims in private. There would be nothing gained by appearing in front of a 'baying mob' many of whom probably have no immediate connection with the tragedy and not even from the borough. I think she should asap meet with the community leaders to look at the broader issues regarding other tower blocks that are equally vulnerable and calm fears as well as indicate that something WILL bew done. I read that to retrofit sprinklers/smoke detectors in flats works out at around £1300 per flat which is a fraction of what was spent on cladding, insulation and new windows i.e. 'sprucing up' old housing stock.
    MY overwhelming feeling is that, whilst the people have a right to be concerned, the media, in particular the BBC are reporting the 'anger' and whipping up the mob. As I said, May is pretty much a busted flush, but on this occasion I think she has done what needed to be done. Had seh spent time touring the disaster site (other than speaking to the emergency service people on the ground to gather information (I don't see how confronting an angry mob would have achieved anything except more headlines for the media). If she had they would no doubt have criticised her for wasting time and not getting on with sorting it all out. The council is where I would be looking to to get short term relief for the victims. If it is true as some were reporting g (Not sure I believe it) that some victims were "sleeping on the streets" the council are culpable.
    It was an avoidable disaster and a catalyst for the them vs us confrontation but I am alarmed at how fast it has become politicised. The time for recriminations is surely after the victims have been assisted.
     
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    "Even the BBC, does it to some extent"

    They're the worst !

    Hundreds of examples.
     
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    May seems to me to have been a politician for too long. To not be able to react naturally in public in any situation. It takes nothing other than a little time to show empathy and compassion. Or even afterward to say ' I was wrong. I was shocked and reacted poorly'. People could respect could think we have all been there. Instead the robotic parroting of pre prepared lines puts her out of step with the people she is meant to lead.


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    Well I was trying not to end up[ in a debate about political bias but, as you rightly point out, they do it all the time. Living abroad and seeing the BBC news website from a distance I wondered if they have always been like that and it was only because we tended to rely solely on the domestic broadcasters that we did not notice the 'selective' reporting and the attempts to 'make news' rather than just report it. However, I have come to the conclusion that only in the past two or three years, the current political editorial teams led by Keunssberg, etc. seem intent on 'making and shaping' the news rather than factual reporting. It seemed to get worse around the time of the referendum where we were (and still are) bombarded with headlines starting with 'May' 'Could' 'Might' 'Possibly' in other words supposition and innuendo rather than facts, as well as dubious sources that support the BBC stance (whatever that is) on various subjects.

    The BBC and Tabloids Guardian, Express, Mirror, Telegraph are now the last place to get 'facts' even if you read both ends of the spectrum they are so far apart with the 'facts' they print that you are left confused as to what is the real situation. Whichever side of the referendum you fall, you cannot deny that reporting as a headline what the Chief EU negotiator says is the actual situation regarding the negotiations (which contradicts what is written in the Article 50 statement) and mocking the UKs stated position on it is hardly 'factual reporting'. Anyway getting off topic there....

    Regarding the protests and huge crowd they reported descending on the Westminster council offices, either a) the accompanying picture is a stock picture or b) the crowd were not local residents protesting simply about the fire since the banner was a 'Say no to racism' and were being whipped up by a group with a political agenda. It is unlikely a spontaneous local protest group would have had time to make such an elaborate banner.. Plenty of Socialist worker placards in one picture I saw. BBC are a disgrace and if the reports of reporters from the tabloids posing as injured to gain access to the injured in hospital then some sort of criminal action should be brought against them if the culprits can be identified for wasting staff's time

    As usual. these events bring out the worst and the best in people. Still think May would have been pilloried for simply offering' Tea and sympathy' if she had spoken to the crowd who probably would have had no intention of listening. She would then have been criticised for wasting time instead of taking action which in fairness she has. One can only hope the inquiry is swift and real remedial action follows instead of it being pushed onto the back burner.

    Final comment. I genuinely wonder if the BBC and media would have been quite so vociferous had it happened in Manchester , Leeds or Newcastle rather than London - or am I being too cynical?
     
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    She WAS there - meeting the people who matter.. emergency services and affected residents to listen and gather information. Empathy and compassion will not bring back the dead nor prevent the same happening again. Getting on with legislating for a public enquiry, setting in motion release of emergency funds and talking with the authorities and residents will. The BBC and media are simply upset as they did not get the opportunity of a juicy headline or story of May meeting a whipped up anti Government mob comprising many people who had, frankly nothing to do with the tragedy and were there to make mischief.

    As I said, I think May is a very weak PM and I agree totally robotic repetition of sound bytes makes her look cold and lacking empathy and certainly not a 'people person'. However on this occasion I believe she has acted decisively (pity Govts have not done so before this happened). As I have already said. 'Tea and sympathy' doesn't cut it. TonyBlair was a master at faking sincerity. I admit when he was elected (I even voted for him) I thought he would be a breath of fresh air and New Labour would be a step in the right direction. How wrong I was on both counts!!
     
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    Bloody hell I agree with you twice In one day. Must be the sun.


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