Precisely, I'd rather be 10th in the championship and other clubs looking at our players than 10th in league 1 with a team full of mediocre players
I hope we give such a display against Leeds on Saturday that clubs are falling over themselves to throw money at us for at least eleven of our players.
Before the Fulham game Sheffield Wednesday were two places above us yet, if reports were to be believed, could quadruple one of our player's wages without breaking sweat (and he's not even their top earner). We're thirteen places ahead of Wigan who are offering a better deal to a player than we can. I'm not even going to start talking about Villa, Forest or the rest of the host of clubs below us with stupid money to spend.
Just let you know Robbo isn't a Wednesday fan and never has been. His dad is a Wednesday fan and has been since we went to school. Just thought I'd clear this up.
Come on man. We've gone from bottom of league 1 to top half championship in 13 months, and we've developed half our squad from lower league football to top champ/PL in the process. and we have one of the lowest budgets in the champ. I'd say we were massively overachieving
With the players we have (in some cases had) I'm inclined to disagree. I'd say we've been smart. Clever and even better at things than other clubs. The way we were playing I don't see as over achieving. Financially we are miles away but been better at it. Smarter with investment and not just chucked money in a blind hope of buying what other teams think are the finished article. We've done the right way. The fact that teams are rumoured to be wanting all our players seems to indicate that the players we have are not over achieving. Different perspective.
I'd put our natural place in the pecking order with the Sky millions and daft owners to be bottom 4 in The Championship/ Top 4 in League 1 so I think it's fair to say we are overachieving.
It's the same thing dressed up, Neil. Folk just hate it when they hear 'over-achieving'. Ask Keith Hill.
Understood. If we could split it. For my argument point of view. Playing wise we aren't over achieving. Financially definitely and way over achieving. We've been lucky to get the players we have who have stepped up. Awash with money some of these players wouldn't probably be in the same place. Credit to players and staff on that score but the players are where they are on merit. By playing and at times out playing others. I might not be making sense but know what I'm trying to convey
We need to be smarter with contracts, but we can compete in this division despite the wage aspect. We now have a reputation as a club who improves players and puts them in the shop window. Players will want to sign for us and accept lower wages in the short term.
And that's a good thing. And why folk should stop waving white flags when we lose a player. Agree on the contract thing. But no matter what we do there will always be a lot more clubs at this level and above who can offer players so much more. And whether we like it or not, and whether the players like the club or not, money will talk 99% of the time. It is why I loved Hassell like I did. And why Rimmo means so much to us all. Loyalty is rare in football.
I agree completely. I suppose that when I say or hear 'overachieving' I always think of it in financial terms. Symptom of the times we live in.
That's what I'm trying to separate. Because on the field we aren't over achieving. Imagine being CH being in that bracket (and pretty much the test of the team TBH) being told they are over achieving just because we are paying crap wages compared to other teams in the division (ok crap being a daft word but I'm sure everyone knows what I mean). CH is most definitely not over achieving. Financially as a club we are. So yes. Making a financial separation on the use of over achieving needs to be made
Have faith in the club, we could self-sustain middle table in League One for at least 3 seasons with all this money. Even better, drop to League Two and make it 5 seasons.
It must be true...Mail on line are reporting on Roberts to Burley 3.5 million http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ley-agree-fee-3-5m-Barnsley-Marc-Roberts.html