Wage cap

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  1. Ric

    RichieD Well-Known Member

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    Predictably the PFA (led by the world's highest paid union official) have warned against the proposed pay cap in the lower divisions. The biggest single cause of football's problems is the ridiculous salary levels. If Gordon Taylor and his pals are not careful they will end up killing off the only employer in town for many of of the PFA's members.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...alary-cap-unlawful-and-unenforceable-says-pfa
     
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    Somebody had better tell both codes of rugby if a salary cap is unlawful. He seems to be confusing a salary cap for the whole squad with a maximum wage for each player. A salary cap doesn't change a player's conditions, it changes how much a club can offer as an aggregate total.

    My main issues with the proposals is that I'd have the cap based on a clubs turnover, and allow owners to put money into an EFL bond if they want to exceed it, so the wages are guaranteed. And the gap between the Championship and League 1 caps is ridiculous. May as well scrap promotion and relegation between the two if you have such a gap.
     
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    nose in the trough. why would the PFA ever agree to something that will potentially hurt its own earnings. The key thing here is they admit football finances need re setting but fail to see (no actually refuse to admit seeing) the obvious method of doing it.

    I like how they try to slip C19 into the mix in the article, using the get out of jail card quite early in the game there!
     
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    Gordon Taylor is just another football parasite.
     
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    Reminds me of Geoffrey from Rainbow.
     
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    He's done very well for himself..
     
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    He's part of the problem. A significant part of the problem.
     
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    Not sure I get that. If you get promoted you will be on the same footing. Relegation re contracts would be an issue. But that’s why parachute payments were supposedly applied from Premier to Championship to cushion the impact.
     
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    Parachute payments are unfair in my view. They give any side a massive chance of promotion over
    their rivals. Just been reading a piece on Bournemouth, not only do they get the cushion afforded by
    their parachute payments, but they have sold Nathan Ake to Manchester City for £40 million. How can
    we and smaller clubs like us, compete against that.?
     
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    Agree.
    We have a situation this year where Wycombe, doing things right on peanuts, are competing against Bournemouth, rewarded handsomely for relegation and able to offload assets at Premier prices.

    This is akin to Yeovil achieving their dream 5 years ago and expected to compete with QPR.

    Champ is a league within a league.
     
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    A salary cap of 2.5m in league 1, and a proposed cap of 18m in the Championship will just create a huge gulf between the two leagues in a few years.
     
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    But we harp on about fair play. And as I said you get promoted you get the same spoils. ( and in general a fairer playing field)
    As in the Championship all the clubs aspire to reach the premiership and all its riches. The championship play of final rated the richest game in world football. For the winner.
    I don’t see it creating as big a gulf as we already have between the top two leagues. But allows a more stable environment and promotion will be more on merit than how big a cheque book you have.
    This madness of players literally demanding more than clubs can generally afford has to stop somehow. spending Caps being a first step.
     
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    Agree that the league one and proposed championship wage caps are too far apart. But in principle we do need a limit on salaries. Frankly the whole thing has been a feeding frenzy for the players and in particular their agents.
     
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    Whilst true, this is a salary cap at L1 that makes its champions struggle in the Championship, followed by the Championship winners needing to completely restructure to stand a chance in the Premiership, where the money will always be massive because they potentially compete in Europe.

    As above; how’s a team coming from a 2.5m salary cap supposed to compete with a champ side with parachute payments?
     
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    My first thoughts about a wage cap in Divisions 1 and 2 is - how is this going to effect Barnsley?

    It will probably prevent Barnsley off-loading players to the higher wage clubs in those divisions like Ipswich, Sunderland and Portsmouth.
     
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    Trouble with allowing members to vote and make decisions. In L1 & L2 they are generally populated by smaller teams who need the cap to make themselves able to compete against likes of Sunderland etc, but in Championship the teams willing to throw money at it outweigh the ones that aren’t so will win their vote and enable to keep the others down and make it harder.
     
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    Maybe this is why McGeehan has gone to Oostende?
     
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    I'm still puzzled when the EFL split into 2 or 3 entities?
    So Hull with players on a decent craic must me sold even if under contract and what if nobody wants to buy them?
    Football clubs will probably die, but the EFL are enhancing the situation
     
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    I'd guess there's already a big gap between L1 and the Championship. I'd be interested in seeing league places of teams promoted and relegated between divisions over the last, say 10 years. I imagine Sheffield Utd will be an outlier, with many teams yo-yoing and most teams getting promoted languishing in the bottom 3rd of the table.

    Been wrong before, lots of times.
     
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    current contracts are excluded and counted as Division average.
     

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