way to go Mr Corbyn

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  1. Dragon Tyke

    Dragon Tyke Well-Known Member

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    you just go on and back Shemima Begum the Isis lass.
     
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    Do you know over 400 ISIS fighters have returned to the U.K. .... only 40 have been prosecuted.

    Do you know Sajid Javid acted illegally in stripping her of her citizenship.

    But of course it’s all Jeremy’s fault.
     
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    Corbyn's a clown. Tower Hamlets the Labour Muslim heartland, don't want this evil woman. We need an internment camp on a Scottish Island for all these returnees, and leave them there for fifty years, by which time, they will be no danger to the population.
     
  5. Dragon Tyke

    Dragon Tyke Well-Known Member

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    he is the reason that Labour are unelectable right now.
     
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    He won't get in with views like the majority of people in the country have right now, no, but it does seem he is right about a lot of things (even if in the minority)
     
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    Sorry you appear to have ignored the facts and found some confirmation bias in a post to back up your own previously held position. Why not just post about your opinion of Corbyn instead using some populist opinion.
     
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    Tell me if I've just seen something incorrectly on ITV news... Corbyn wants the ISIS girl to be allowed back but refused to say if he'd let his renegade MPs back into the labour party.
    Shows where his cockeyed values lie. The man who adored the IRA.
     
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    Why don't you study the facts before posting.....tit ed. He hasn't " backed" the lass in question, mindst I spout ****** a lot of the time so go for it sushine.
     
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    Why? Because he thinks that we should do a full investigation before revoking somebody's citizenship? I disagree with him, and Marlon, and farnham red etc but I completely understand why they think so.

    Or is it because he says he doesn't want to go round supporting war?

    Or because he doesn't like the idea of nuclear war and can't just say he's press the red button randomly?

    People with a hell of a lot to lose should he be elected have invented this myth of him being unelectable because they're scared shitless that they can't by him like they have the majority of ministers.
     
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    BTW, she can rot for me.
     
  12. tobyornottoby

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    It's not him being unelectable - it's the Labour party with him in charge being less likely to be electable.

    Not that I'm sure that Dragon's premise is obviously true.

    Personally speaking, I can't vote for them while he's in charge. But I couldn't vote for the Tories while May is in charge.

    I need to be persuaded beyond my present disgust for all of them.
     
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    Irregardless of his views on the matter, he needs some friends right now, so might have been better saying 'nowt.
     
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    If someone brings her back, she needs to be interrogated & probably stand trial.

    There could be a lot of information that could lead to the arrests of terrorist plotters, so bring her back.

    PS I would expect her to do time & her kid to be adopted by someone capable.
     
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    Ridiculous mentality of some posters here.

    He's said she should be allowed back to face investigation. Not that she should be able to go home and pretend nothing's happened. Cannot do with people twisting what they read to fit an agenda. And I'm no massive Corbyn fan either.
     
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    Not my words but well worth a read.


    Revoking citizenship is unheard of for good reason. Next time the UK wants to deport someone undesirable they've just opened the door to other countries saying no and revoking their own citizens rights to return. There is a reason why this isn't done, Javid knows this and knows he will lose in the courts so really this is just red meat for the more and more right wing Tory base.


    Secondly, she was born in the UK, raised in the UK and educated in the UK. At the end of the day - she isn't Syria's responsibility and unless they plan to detain her she is the UK's responsibility and the UK should live up to it's responsibility and look to detain her or rehabilitate her.


    You have Huntley's and Bellfields sitting in jail in the UK. They are infinitely worse than Shamima and are guilty of actual murder and murderous crimes. They were however given due process, a trial and a sentencing. Shamima has received no due process and yet the UK is punishing her. She deserves to be punished and held accountable - but after she is investigated and charged, not summarily with no scope to defend herself.


    If you don't value due process then fair enough - but I can tell you it's the difference between utter authoritarianism or worse, and a civilised society. Due process is one of the most important rights we have but it hasn't been afforded to Shamima.


    Finally - she was groomed as a 13/14 year old, married off at 15. She has never been outside that bubble since and is now most likely quite indoctrinated. She is surrounded by extremely vicious people who would murder her in her sleep if she spoke out.


    She should be brought back to the UK and ultimately will be when the Home Offices little dog and pony show is over. It should annoy you that they are breaking international law and their own guidelines to show off how right wing they are.


    She should be investigated and her culpability established. Was she willing, was she groomed, how did it happen what is the context and at that point society can decide how she should be punished.


    This entire affair is just another embarrassment for the UK. People refusing to scratch even a small amount below the surface and making up their mind without showing much of an understanding of what may have happened in this instance.
     
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    Your PS might put her off coming "home".

    Plus I doubt if the state would allow adoption by an incapable.:) What about Madonna, or Angelina Jolie, or Elton John? Or all 3 on a rotational basis?
     
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    Leave him to it, he keeps hammering those nails in, every cloud as they say
     
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    On this he is obviously right for the reasons outlined above. The tories might think pandering to racists will win them elections. They may be right but Corbyn is correct not to swim in that sewer. She needs to come home be arrested and pay for any crimes committed.
     
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    She's British. What options are there other than to readmit her?
     
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