Wigan attendence v Cardiff 12,600 which included just under 3, 000 visiting fans. Big club? Kieffer will have plenty of seats to sit on if he's omitted from the team.
If Wigan pay higher wages than us on their attendances, one would suspect they'll fall foul of FFP before long.
Their wage bill in 2017/18 was more than ours, and they were in League One whilst we were in the Championship.
When they get relegated this year they will be the next Lancashire club to go bust through paying unsustainable wages.
Although technically still our player I’d have thought he would have been watching his possible new club Wigan.
They're not a big club. Their fans may think they are, but they're just a shitty lower league club that bought success for a bit. Like Brentford and Bournemouth, if they lived within their means they would still be bottom feeders. Their fans think that's great, and gives them licence to lord it over us, but it's already losing its shine for them. Bournemouth are never going to win anything and will eventually drop out of the prem. All that money spent to keep 10k fans happy. Readings glory fans have gone and they're now perennially struggling at the bottom of the championship. Brentford are up to their eyes in debt from chasing the dream, but the height of the ambition is to have a new ground with a capacity of 17k.. hardly premier league ready. Blackburn have had their days in the sun after being the first club with ideas above their station. Add Bolton to that list as well. They've made a real pigs ear of things. None of these clubs are bigger or better than us. They've spent silly money and have had their fans temporarily in dream land, but most of them are playing at the same level as us, so was all that debt really worth taking on?
I think it’s a fine argument, so long as we admit we’re no more a big club than they are. We COULD become a big club with the support of the new ownership and natural, sustainable, growth, but it’s pretty unlikely.
Totally disagree. I never said we were a bigger club. It's a fact that all those clubs have bought success to a greater or lesser extent. You're looking for something that's not there.
I think he's bang on. All the clubs mentioned are the same as us or smaller and have bought success. When you buy it you'd better have deep pockets though because money is all that will sustain you.
Over the last 30 years or so, attitudes have changed. When I used to play for the supporters club we used to have a drink with fans from Man City and West Brom, and also Southend and Swindon, amongst many others. There was no condescending back then. They were just football fans like us. Today the whole 'teams like' card is produced by youngsters with no real idea of their own history. Take Fulham for example. Before Al Fayad appeared on the scene, we were 3 leagues higher than them, and they were getting gates of around 5k, yet were 'teams like' I don't mind admitting some clubs are bigger and better than us if they are. It's just that some of the fairweather brigade boil my feckulence.
Sky and the money as ruined alot of it IMO, when we were premier league there was a tenth of this mentality of my knob is bigger than yours, defo think it's the ££££££
