Hillflicker tutoring our centre backs on how to deal with Henderson

So Hill says on radio dee dar

There was no problem last season because Henderson never got a kick

So whats the difference this season that calls for extra tuition?

Is it because, this season, we don’t have a commanding centre back in the squad?
And if not - WHY NOT?

 

I think it's because he'll be the biggest threat tomorrow

Surely it's better to put emphasis on the main threat, rather than ignoring him and him tearing us to bits. Don't let one game make you think he's not going to be a threat, because generally, he's a real handful.

He knocked our back four about a couple of years ago, and scored 2 penalties, think he scored in the game when Morgan assaulted Hume. He's certainly the one to watch for me, possibly the strongest player in our league, even if he isn't blessed with pace.

 

Yes - but what I'm doing here is showing the differnce between last season and this..

.......ie...............SHACKELL.........and the lack of a genuine replacement

 

Only time will tell

I think Edwards has made an encouraging start to his Barnsley career; he's maybe not as commanding as Shackell, however it's the numbers which will prove to be the real acid test. 5 goals conceeded in 4 games, not really a critical situation that, and against 4 teams tipped for promotion.

If we win tomorrow, and Henderson doesn't get a sniff at goal, then Hillflickers approach will look like a work of tactical brilliance.

 

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Yes thats him, one of the best centre halfs in the Championship and a steal at a £1,000,000 according to Rams fan. We would still have conceded 60 goals last season if Vidic played there instead of Shackell. Lets see how Shackell gets on this season in a better defence.

 

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imho it's not just down to the back 4 - our home games this year have afforded our back 4 no protection at all, in fact for the majority of the time back at Championship level I think we've been very easy to play against, except for a few occasions when we've seemed motivated.

It'd be a pleasant change for us to have a mobile, combative and creative midfield, not the ineffective idle shambles of recent seasons - Colace being an example. Our midfield needs building around Doyle imho.

 

Surely you can't be knocking them for working on the finer details of tactics. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

 

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We conceded 64 goals in the THIRD tier with Morgan the main man in our side and the season before we conceded 86 and were relegated so l don't think you can judge 1 defender on the number of goals his team concede.

Shackell was at fault for some goals but the same can be said of the best defenders in the world but l would say Steele, Foster, Hill etc were at fault for a lot more.

 

I can't believe you're criticising them for coaching the players. Crikey, this Hill-bashing has got even more ridiculous. The guy can't fart without some BBS twerp coming down on him.

 

Its called preparation Nudger and all managers do it - Robins would have done exactly the same last season. If he didnt prepare then there would be moans and when he does prepare he gets criticised.

 

Someone here saying Morgan is better than Shackell

.............yep..........I've heard it all nar !!!

 

Re: Someone here saying Morgan is better than Shackell

A couple of seasons ago we had the commanding figure of Darren Moore playing against him at CB and even Moore struggled that night if I remember rightly, Henderson scored two and missed a couple of headers as well.

Also, didn't Henderson miss one of the games through injury last season, and only just recovered in time for the second? I'm sure a fully fit Henderson would've given Shackell something to think about, especially in a team that are able to create chances for him, like Millwall will this weekend.

Nowt wrong with a bit of preperation.

 

Its like knocking a nail into a knot sometimes..........

...........it just wont go in..........FFS.....the point int about Hillflicker tutoring......well it is in a way, but its about the ability of our centre back last season to distinguish any threat from big powerful centre forwards such as Henderson and his predecessor Morison........both of them didn't get a kick against us.........why?..........because of Shackell

Hillflicker is having to tutor our present centre backs because he says they haven't got the power to compete with Henderson
So in a nutshell the point is this..........Shackell is going to be sorely missed this season because we haven't really replaced him with a centre back that can deal with powerful centre forwards

 

Re: Its like knocking a nail into a knot sometimes..........

How do you know Robins didnt spend all week tutoring Shackell.....

 

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Nudge firstly Henderson was unfit last season and didnt play at Oakwell (if I remember rightly) so how can you tell that Shackell would have coped any better? And my point was that you dont know that Robins didnt spend time with Shackell last season tutoring him in defending against Henderson.

 

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I think you'll find Shackell played against Morison at the new Den in the away fixture. We lost 2-0 and Morison scored.