Did he get what he deserved?

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  1. Anderson15

    Anderson15 Active Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14963811

    A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after the death of a suspected intruder at a Greater Manchester house.

    Police found a man, aged in his 30s, with knife injuries after they were called to a house in Midland Road, Bramhall, at 19:50 BST on Saturday.

    The man arrested on suspicion of murder is aged 39 and believed to be the householder.

    A 33-year-old man has also been arrested in connection with the burglary.

    The couple who live at the house were named locally as Vincent and Karen Cooke.

    The man was home alone when the burglary happened although his wife and son returned during the incident but were unharmed.

    Ch Supt Tim Forber, said: "Clearly this is a serious incident in which a man has lost his life and at this time we believe the dead man was one of two men who were attempting to carry out a burglary at the house."

    A post mortem examination is due to take place later on the man who died.

    Floral tributes to the dead man have been laid near the scene.

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    surely if he was trying to nick sumat it was right for the homeowner to defend his property, no?
     
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    He shouldn't have been in his house anyway. Anyone dare to come in to my house and put my family at risk be prepared
     
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    You can use reasonable force to defend your property from an intruder, but a life is worth more than property, killing is probably deemed excessive force but we don't know the full details. For example a shopkeeper (also in manchester I believe) was cleared of killing an intruder.
     
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    If anyone brakes into my house, they'll get my samurai sword through there c0ck and balls, no messing
    way i see it, its me or him, if i don't do him, he'll do me with whatever he's used to brake in with.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    'thereev' Banned Idiot

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    agreed...... too many liberal do gooders blah blah blah

    if you don't wanna get killed while robbing....don't rob........simplez
     
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    Correct. If intruder is armed with the tool that he's broken in with, who is to say that he's not going to use it on you. Not worth waiting for him to make the first move. He wasn't invited so he should not be expected to have a nice welcome.
     
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    No.

    Noone deserves to be murdered for trying to nick some stuff. He should get a good slap but killed?

    If he's given him a few punches and he's fell and hit his head then it's unlucky and he probably should get off. But if he's stabbed him or something similar then he should go down.
     
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    Get ready for replies mate lol
     
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    F.ck 'em.
     
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    Good for you. I happen to agree - murder is murder, particularly when someone get knifed.
     
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    If it's self defence, fine. If he's given the bloke a slap and the worst has happened, fine.

    But if he's deliberately gone out to kill him he should go down. Think that's fair enough.
     
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    I seem to recall that there was no prosecution following that incident when some peeps were unlucky enough to break into Duncan Ferguson's house. He didn't kill 'em but I bet they wished he had!
     
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    There have been two cases recently where intruders have been killed and the property owner has quite rightly escaped charges. Anyone who breaks into somebody elses property should do so at their own risk and not be expected to get any protection from the law.
     
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    All householders should be allowed to display a 'BURGLARS: ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK' sign on their doors and if an intruder ignores the warning and gets what's coming to them, there should be no repercussions.

    This is my own opinion and not the views of Barnsley Football Club or Barnsley Player.
     
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    And what if the smack-head scroat has a knife? You're woken in the night, your family are in the house, you're feeling very scared and vulnerable and you don't know whether he has a knife, a hammer, a screwdriver, etc but you'd take your chances and punch him? **** that, he'd be getting a bat round the head. Luckily the law allows home owners to use necessary force to protect their homes and families.
     
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    Why's he a smack head scroat straight away?

    By slap I meant a bit of force, dint mean I'd engage in Queensbury rules but reasonable has to be reasonable - you go and stab the **** in the back etc then you should go down. Like that farmer who shot the kid in the back (if I recall).

    If you give him a swing of your 3 wood to the knee caps and make sure he can't move then fair play.
     
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    That's just my experience; I've not been the victim of a burglary but I do know a couple of lads that have and it's always a smack head doing the handy work. In the heat of the moment it wouldn't matter one bit whether they were on drugs or not I think my over-riding instinct would be to protect and that would mean using something to make sure I did the job properly. Personally I wouldnt use a knife unless I had absolutey no other option but I would use my cricket bat without hesitation.
     
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    Need to know a bit more about it

    If the householder was threatened and defending himself then yes he did get what he deserved, if however he was trying to escape and stabbed as he was running away its a bit different - not sure Murder is the right charge though - I would have thought Manslaghter was more appropriate.
     

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