FIFA tell the referee if England walk onto the pitch wearing Poppy's he must....

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  1. Eaststand Lower

    Eaststand Lower Well-Known Member

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    Call the game off.


    If anyone agrees with FIFA you should hang your head is shame.

    FIFA are no better than the Muslim scum that burn the Poppy's.
     
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    agreed....fook fifa i say!
     
  3. ian

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    Its gone beyond a joke. Are they trying to tell us that our heroes have committed crimes by fighting for our country?
     
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    Its a disgraceful decision by them; the poppy is neither commercial, religious or political. I hope they see sense allow a loophole in the rule to allow the poppy.
     
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    i bet the ref wouldn't call the game off, i think there will be more of a problem if the game was called off than England wearing Poppies
     
  6. EastStander

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    Well I agree with FIFA....and before you start I wear a poppy.

    However, the point is where do you draw the line. As FIFA state if they allow England to wear a poppy then other countries may use that precedent to wear a symbol, maybe for their independence day etc. At some point they will have to draw the line and then the controversy will really kick in. So better to have a rule as it stands that says the country's badge and manufacturers badge and nothing else.
    We are reaching a point where people are questioned if they don't wish to wear a poppy. Premier League clubs all having them on their shirt....what if a player doesn't want to wear one? Similarly every person, presenter or guest, on the BBC wearing them....it detracts from the symbolism of the poppy if it's no longer a statement by an individual and becomes an expected part of a uniform.
     
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    Please, please, PLEEEEEZE! FA send out the team with poppies. I would love to see the world reaction if FIFA were arrogant enough to abandon the match on that basis.
    Far too big for their boots now. The recent FIFA elections at their headquarters resembled election of a new UN head. Blatter is a pompous arrogant a*se and the recent corruption fudge -allowing someone to resign - rather than prosecution and investigating properly exposes them for what they are.

    It is a FRIENDLY match played in our OWN country. Whilst FIFA have final say on rules of what goes on ON the pitch this intervention is a bridge too far. No way is the poppy a symbol of religion, sponsorship or advertising of a commercial concern. Blatter is probably bitter that we 'bombed his schintzel house'

    Nobody likes us - everybody hates us! Well F*ckem I say! FA wont have the b*lls unfortunately!
     
  8. Tek

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    Black armband -poppy, what's the difference?...

    ...both are in remembrance of people who have died. Sorry Eaststander - your argument doesn't stand up. A bit like "positive discrimination" in the workplace. There is NO such thing. Every positive has a negative. You argue that it discriminates against an individual that doesn't want to wear one. But that is the same as discriminating against people who DO. By putting this ban in place FIFA ARE politicising the sport. If they had said nothing and made no fuss, the team would have come onto the pitch and very little outside of the UK would have been said.

    Will they ban black armbands next (I have seen players wearing them in remembrance of footballers who have died or natural disasters etc)? The poppy is in remembrance of those who have died in wars.
     
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    Re: Black armband -poppy, what's the difference?...

    well said
     
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    "Where do you draw the line "

    A tired argument used of late to excuse the policies and procedures that seek to treat everyone and every case in the same way. Unfortunately they aren't.

    One would hope that in an organisation such as FIFA there is the wherewithall to look at individual cases and make a judgement rather than hide behind policy. The Poppy is so different to nationalistic and political symbols that to lump it in with such is a disgrace and an insult to people who gave their lives.
     
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    Re: Black armband -poppy, what's the difference?...

    No, because the individual can wear one, they can wear it on their clothes.

    You just aren't grasping the point I made.....which is if they allow a poppy, then someone else wants to wear a symbol to commemorate say those who died in a war of independence, then it cascades, and you get Croatia wanting to wear a symbol for their dead when they play Serbia, and then it becomes political and you get an even greater furore when the line has to be drawn.
     
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    well thats easy....we just get

    a British and Spanish set of officials who are about to retire...and tell FIFA its our stadium, our ball and so **** off...then all wear poppies on both teams...how the hell could they do owt
    If England and Spain want to organise summat between them then why not.... and tell Septic Blatter to Poke off and count his gerimandered votes again.
     
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    Re: Black armband -poppy, what's the difference?...

    Its just FIFA trying to demonstrate power the government needs to make a stance another Anti-English action
    Allied to Wayns Rooney treatment compared to Maradonna and Zidane and world Cup bidding process producing unmarketable and illogical venues.
     
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    Re: Black armband -poppy, what's the difference?...

    But the poppy is NOT nationalistic. It commemorates ALL people who have died in confilicts not just WW1 and British troops. therfore the analogy does not stand up. Besides, what about my point of black armbands. Using your analogy Croatia could wear black armbands when playing against Serbia which would then, according to you be seen as nationalistic. Commemorating the dead for political means merely demeans the wearer of the symbol.
     
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    By the way, they are banning ALL British teams from wearing the Poppy this week-end

    not just England
     
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    It's a pity England can't rustle up a new strip for the friendly...oo... say...

    ....White with a stonking great red poppy emblazoned on the front (and back). (I wonder what rules there are re New strip design.
     
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    well if not then Wembley must become sea of poppies

    maybe one painted into the turf..all the electronic advert boards... shut the roof and let them rain down from above like on the sunday service on BBC... every person in the ground should wear huge ones ...banners etc etc. and of course England should opt for their red shirt as its poppy red...really let that T W A T Blatter know just what a total C0ck he truly is, does he not realise just what a symbol he is now turning the poppy into...what total t0sser.
     
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    Re: well if not then Wembley must become sea of poppies

    A black arm band isn't a change to the kit. Why don't we just wear black arm bands on Saturday. And yes....have it on the advertising hordings.
     
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    would be good if all our players got a poppy face painted on their cheeks..

    or a temporary tattoo on the forearms ...and then when the anthems are played cross that arm over the chest/heart to show it off.

    this is then THEIR personal choice and it is not altering their strip at all...what could they possibly do about that then.
     
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    Re: well if not then Wembley must become sea of poppies

    The majority of fans will probably be wearing them proudly. Why should the players NOT be united with them with this symbol of pride and honour to our dead heroes. The England team would be giving our heroes a great honour and ultimate respect. Instead, they are forced to shun them. How disrespectful this is. Once a proud nation. Great Britain, not so great these days i think
     

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