Redstar

I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

Asian or otherwise, but I see paedophilia as a crime against children, not a race hate crime.

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

They were investigated. They f**ked it up.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/charlene_murder_case_built_on_lies_1_425645

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4020471/Charlene-Downes-cop-Jan-Beasant-must-quit-job.html

There are quotes from a former Det Supt Mick Gradwell admitting something about not wanting to upset community cohesion, but these appear to stem from Jack Straw's public concerns about paedophile gangs and do not appear to be "an admittance in court" for not investigating: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12167131

The only media - and I use the term loosely - seeming to combine all these elements into one as a tacit admittance of political correctness and unconcern are those with an obvious political axe to grind against certain sections of the community.

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

You always have to take things off to another tangent don't you?

 

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No. You quite clearly said that white girls are easier to groom. Now I'm struggling to understand how the hell that makes an asian bloke racist just because he's grooming the easy target. If the black lasses had been into drugs and underage drinking and smoking and were as easy to groom as the white girls who loved the drugs, cigs and booze then they would have been groomed as well but they werent. So I think that pointing out that you had just highlighted the fact that the white girls were essentially more stupid is a fair point.

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

I wasn't for one second thinking that you would stick up for paedophiles Jay.

Without meaning to sound harsh or presumptious from what I have read I think the asian men find it easier to target some white girls as they come from one parent or disfunctional families. The girl could be out til all hours and the parent/s wouldn't know or even ask where she had been.

That is not always the case. I have read a book on a girl that was groomed and she game from a very good home and had a loving family. She didn't tell her parents or the police for a long time as the men had threatened her family and friends if she spoke out, as she was so young she was too scared to do anything.

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

As do I Jay. As do I.

Also doesn't paedophilia actually mean an adult who is sexually attracted to children? Acting on that is essentially the opposite of hate. It is wrong in so many ways, it is a crime and illegal for a very good reason and I am not justifying it at all but a HATE crime? Not at all. It would only be a hate crime if it was rape.

Trying to call peadophiles grooming white girls as racist against whites is like claiming that I was racist and hated black people if I went to a brothel and paid for sex with a black prostitute. Id be breaking the law but anyone with common sense could see that what I had done meant that I was attracted to the black woman, not that I was disgusted by her.

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

You're right, the majority of the girls who were groomed in this 'ring' were white and the majority of them were from broken homes. They were easy targets not because of their colour but because of their home lift. About as far from racist as you can possibly get.

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

Read Emma Jacksons book on how she was groomed. You will read how they constantly racially abused her and made terrible threats against her family if she went to the police. These men have no respect for white women whatsoever and see these young girls as theirs to do with whatever they want by ruling them through fear

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

As i've stated before read some of the victims accounts of their abuse and you will find they were verbally racially abused in a terrible way so they were made to feel worthless

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

Basically the spear chuckers can do and say what they want.

NB When I say "spear chucker" I mean the pre-colonial hunters of Sub-Saharan Africa but there wasn't room to say it above.

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

What has the grooming of a girl in Yorkshire got to do with the grooming of girls in Blackpool other than the fact that they both happen to have white skin?

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

Are you talking about random victims of grooming randomly throughout the world or are you talking specifically about the grooming of the girls at the takeaways in blackpool by that group of men?

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

At that point when I answered we weren't just talking about the Charlene Downes case, I was talking about the muslim grooming of young white girls in general and who they targeted so I gave Emma Jackson as an example

 

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So SOME black people racially abuse SOME white people while loads more dont. I'm glad we cleared that up.

Funnily enough SOME white people racially abuse SOME black people too. Loads don't as well.

In conclusion some people are racist and some aren't. Well **** me sideways, thats a shocker isn't it.

 

Re: You're getting mixed up

I knew I shouldn't have replied to your first post. I really can't stomach you sometimes.

You have got that so wrong, but I won't go into it further with you as I can't be doing with you

 

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you are right, i've obviously got it wrong. All black people are racist, all white people are angels. My mistake.

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

**** me, I've only just seen this ***** but it must go down as the worst post ever. Paedophilia is an act of love. Of course it's not rape though because the "recipient" has given their consent. Even though they are below the age of consent. Grooming = dating.

You need serious help lad.

 

Re: I'm not going to start sticking up for paedophiles

bugger me , I was only winding up Redstar !

However I do feel that if a crime is commited against a person of ethnic minority by a white person it is usually described as racist whereas if the other way around it rarely is. Only my perception.

 

Just look at what you've started!!

I hope you're proud of yourself!!!

 

Re: Nothing will happen, racism appears to only work one way in this country

I was talking about the same thing with a group of customers just before Xmas and the common perception was that racism only appears to work one way and to question the fact that certain groups aren't quite as persecuted as they would like everyone to believe can have you branded as a racist. Until some people stop pandering to the PC brigade and certain sections of society take their heads out of the sand I can't see anything really changing.

I'm not offended in the slightest by what Diane Abbott said, frankly I think she is a fool at the best of times, but she must be treated equally and in the same was as if a white MP had besmirched a whole race in a similar way. This woman is a senior MP who represents people of all races, colours and creeds so is she really fit to do her job properly when she holds such views?