The board have to start backing Mr Hill

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by NIGHTMARE, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And find the cash to offer the players he is bringing in to the club enough money to get them on longer deals, there is some major money to be made of the back of Hill and his coaching team if they back them to the hilt, the rewards will be massive for this football club but the board need to back the man and let him bring the players in, i knows time are hard and the club is skint but we have a bloke here who could make us a lot of money if we speculate to accumulate
     
  2. ATY

    ATYKE1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Messages:
    3,659
    Likes Received:
    4,318
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I`d rather be as we are than pawn the family silver.
     
  3. Ext

    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    11,753
    Likes Received:
    1,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professional Northerner.
    Location:
    Preparing for the 4th division
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The Board ?

    Mr Rowing and Mr Taylor ?

    Good luck.
     
  4. Gally

    Gally Administrator
    Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    17,164
    Likes Received:
    12,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    York
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Back him with what? We're nearly out of Blackie's eggs!

    Patrick Cryne isn't in a position to put any money into the football club. The club would welcome other investors (wrong word really) but they aren't queuing up. Where is this backing supposed to come from?

    Hillcroft have a budget and do have some money to bring players in.
     
  5. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The other option is **** it do nothing and lose Hillflicker anall, because they'll not be here long if they don't get some money from somewhere, and then the chance to earn from them is gone,
     
  6. Ext

    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    11,753
    Likes Received:
    1,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professional Northerner.
    Location:
    Preparing for the 4th division
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Money from where ?
     
  7. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    From the same place they got it from for Davey & Robins
     
  8. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    That would be Mr Cryne then ?
     
  9. Ext

    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    11,753
    Likes Received:
    1,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professional Northerner.
    Location:
    Preparing for the 4th division
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    None there anymore.
     
  10. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    yeah thats it pal
     
  11. ste

    steveos71 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2009
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wake up. Where will the cash come from? Hillcroft took this job realising the financial situation and they are managing it within those restrictions.
    When you suggest that The board "find the cash" - what do you actually mean. If you've got the winning numbers for the lottery I suggest you get in touch with The Board ocs it aint coming from anywhere else - not on our gates!!
    Oh and talking of speculating to accumulate, isn't that what Risdale did at Leeds?
     
    kanecat likes this.
  12. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    So after putting into the club and the company that owns the ground about £15m since he took over, he should just carry on ?
     
  13. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0

    yeah because now with Hillflicker he as a big chance of getting his money back
     
  14. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    Whilst I can see where you are coming from he would be gambling on promotion. How much in your opinion would be enough to secure promotion ?
     
  15. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0

    no he would be gambling on hill and flicker turning people like Vaz Te Drinkwater Butterfield and such like into million pound players
     
  16. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    That would involve giving extended contracts without release clauses... how much do you think that would cost ? and if it didn't work we'd have players we can't get rid of on long term expensive contracts.
     
  17. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    11,078
    Likes Received:
    7,824
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Why dont you take out a loan and give it to the club - no risk right?
     
  18. Journo Tyke

    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    14,114
    Likes Received:
    1,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Mortgage and Protection Advisor
    Location:
    People's republic of Yorkshire
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    I agree with the longer contracts aspect

    For young players who Hill believes will make it.

    Look at Palace just giving Zaha a 5 year contract... and that's when he's already attracted attention form big clubs.

    If we only ever hand out 2 year contracts we'll never make any money.
     
  19. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    Re: I agree with the longer contracts aspect

    Fair enough, but say we offered Jacob a five year contract it would have to be on good money and he turns out not to be the same prospect after his injury ? We'd be paying out without return.


    BTW if Jacob is daft enough to read this board it is only a hypothetical case and get well soon !
     
  20. JDB

    JDB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    573
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The problem is, if Hillcroft worked their magic and we ended up making £2/3m from creating saleable assets then Cryne still wouldn't get his money back because fans would be demanding that we spent the profit on more players. You've only got to look at what happened when Shackell left to see how the fans react - "Where has the Shackell money gone?" "We've not backed Hill with the money from Shackell" etc.

    In my opinion, we need to carry on doing what we're doing. Gives playes contracts that are low risk to us as a club, but that allow us to pick up transfer fees for them. If we sell them, we then re-invest the money but have the added bonus of a creating a reputation for improving the careers of players. Eventually we're going to end up with 3/4 players at the club (at the same time) who are doing really well and put us in a position (e.g. playoffs) where the players get offers from other clubs but don't want to leave due to the chance of promotion.

    Keep up the good work BFC and Hillcroft.
     

Share This Page