Capello was correct....

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion Capello should never have been appointed in the first place for lots of reasons so I'm glad he's gone even though 2012 Euro boredom is nearly here.... However, his comments, which seem to be supported by substance regarding the reasoning behind his departure, are to me sound. He expressed an opinion that basically he disagreed with Terry's dismissal because although Terry was accused of a crime (therefore Terry being a possible tw*t) he was innocent at time of sacking. He's right. The FA got it wrong, not Capello. Terry might be an ar*ehole in more ways than one but the manner of the displacement of captaincy when a man is 'innocent till proven guilty' is a poor reflection on the FA and not Capello regardless of any contractual obligation to say that the FA are always fantastic. The FA have proven themselves to be narrow-minded, self-seeking morons as per usual. Could the whole thing have been engineered in the first place so that Capello would bog off in time to apoint Redknapp or some other knight in shining armour??? Dunno, but even though I have always thought him cr*p, I think Capello is in the right on this one...
    You can tell me I'm a plonker but you'll not change my view..
     
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    The question is

    How many more bodies is John Terry going to step over before someone calls time on his England career? How many tournaments are going to be all about who JT has f**ked over rather than the football? Would we not just be better in letting him go his own way and take bets on when he's going to end up in jail? because as sure as night follows day, that's his naturally resting place.
     
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    Whilst I kind of agree in principle, the fact that this has come about just proves how divisive John Terry is. The Fa and the manager in disagreement.
    If he'd had been a good captain in the past, maybe there'd be a wave of sympathy, but there isn't.

    Capello truly grasping at straws, because Terry and himself had massive issues in South Africa, and now he has once again been in the limelight for the wrong reasons. I say grasping at straws ... I feel sorry for Capello ... who would you pick from the bunch of total let downs we have as potential England captains?

    I wouldn't pick Terry again. For as long as he's in the set up there will be divisions. Time to move on. Hopefully with the younger players, and a breed that can show a pride in their country.
     
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    You are not a plonker, by any means- but you should keep an open mind because that is quite far off the mark. Capello has used the Terry nonsense as leverage for a tidy divorce settlement and a possible, respectable return to serie a. Dirty Harry got off today, there are far bigger crooks out there so fair play. he is an entertainer after all and the people's choice for the big job. The FA are finally being direct, I knew this was on the cards but blimey, that was fast!!!
     
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    If Terry had have resigned, this wouldn't have happened. In the past, I'm sure a quick word from the FA and the captain does the right thing. But not John Terry. Who's all about John Terry.

    I'd not pick him again.

    That said, I'd also not pick Lampard, Gerrard or Rio. With everyone expecting nothing from the Euros, take a team of kids, under-28s, and see how we fare. Couldn't do any worse than the World Cup with our 'golden generation'.
     
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    23 man squad. I'm sure there are people I've missed, and a couple over 28, but a squad on merit, based on this season.
    Rooney's deliberately not in there

    Hart, Ben Foster... (um...??) A. N. Other

    Richards, Glen Johnson, Gary Cahill, Phil Jags, Phil Jones, Kyle Walker, Baines, Steven Taylor

    Wilshere, Theo Walcott, Scott Parker, Alex OC, James Milner, Rodwell, Henderson

    Sturridge, Welbeck, Defoe, Ash Young, Carroll
     
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    John Terry is over-rated and past it imho. Time to forget him and move onwards and upwards. But i would still find a place for Gerrard as he can still do a good job for England.
     
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    Looks good to me! However, I would definitely find room in there for Michael Dawson (who I believe is our best defender), Ashley Cole, Gerrard and Darren Bent, at the expense of Johnson, Taylor, Henderson and maybe Welbeck (I aint a fan in all honesty). Apart from that though it looks bang on mate.

    Would line up like this too:

    Hart
    Richards-Dawson-Cahill-Cole
    Jones-Parker
    Walcott-Gerrard-Oxo
    Bent
     
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    Cole for Walker

    Bent for Carroll

    Dawson for Taylor

    Still wouldn't take Gerrard :redface:
     
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    If Capello wasn't consulted over the decision about Terry then I can understand why he's resigned. However, the FA were correct to strip Terry of the captaincy. You state "innocent until proven guilty" but it's not uncommon for people to be fired or suspended when facing police charges, it can be stipulated in the contract. Also, it is entirely incompatible with the FA having a "Kick racism out of football" campaign to then have the captain of the national team facing racial charges.
    Terry could have managed to get some positive PR out of this had he stepped down and said that whilst he professed his innocence of the charges, it was a distraction in the run up to a major tournament.
     
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    Re: The question is

    I can't understand how any player can represent their country while facing criminal charges. From the moment a player is charged with an offence with a court appearance they should be suspended from all levels of competitive football until the culmination of the case, whether that is an innocent verdict or the end of their sentence.

    Just think what your employer would do to you if you were in the same position (allegedly racially abused a worker from a rival company on live tv). Chances are you would be suspended (possibly without pay) pending a disciplinary hearing and could face dismissal under gross misconduct or something similar.
     

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