So the Government have created a system...

Correct. It is a scam. And the beneficiaries once again are private companies.

 

I had always worked and when I came out of the Army I couldn't face not working so when offered this scheme I decided I could do it and still look for a job so I did. Fortunately I was back in full time work within six weeks of joining the scheme and although I soon left that job for the job I am still in now I think it was a useful scheme although I certainly wouldnt say it would work for everybody and without a shadow of a doubt there will be employers who take advantage and have no intention of turning the roles into a permanent position.

 

Don't forget they get off the rent and council tax.

 

I can't explain it either. Why not just give these people a job on the usual company rates? Baffling.

 

That assumes that all unemployed people don't own their own house for example. They won't for very long at that money like.

 

Given I deal with the unemployed on a daily basis I reserve the right to express that statement. If they have a runt or two they can get working family tax credits.

System favours the unemployed as it stands.

 

Not arguing with you. But my statement is true and taking a slave job that only benefits Tesco et al won't save someones house.

Welfare should be a safety net not a lifestyle choice. Like paying tax it is your duty to society to work to the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need".

The way to fix it is NOT to make it benefit private companies instead.

 

I went on a scheme after leaving uni

In 98. I was applying for loads of jobs in TV, but every job I applied for they had like 1000 applications. It was almost impossible to stand out. So I went on this scheme that gave me £10 extra per week on top of my dole and they got me a placement at Yorkshire television. Got my foot in the door and the next full time position that came up I got it.

But the scheme wasn't just for fancy pants wnakers like me wanting to work in television. There were loads of folk doing it who got placements in shops and warehouses or as secretaries or whatever.

I'm not saying the system is perfect, but it worked for me. I got the job I wanted to do when I was finding it really difficult to find anything.

 

Re: I went on a scheme after leaving uni

I was trying to get into IT in the early '80's and having difficulty getting a foot in the door. Back then though they had the Work Experience scheme for 6 months. It was more than the dole paid, don't remember how much. Anyway, I went on that and was at a placement at Barnsley Tech (now college) in the IT department. Whilst they said I was doing a good job they weren't in a position to take anyone full time, but it indirectly led me to getting a job, when after I'd left they'd been asked by Barnsley Council if they knew of anyone for a temporary position. Was supposed to be 3 months, working mainly nights running overnight schedules on the computers. So they put me in touch with them. That temporary post lasted 3 years (kept getting extension of contract - never had full benefits), and the experience I gained allowed me to then move on.
It's all about getting the initial break, and if this is done right then it can provide that.

 

Reight then ponty 72

Its your company and you have all the staff you want and taking anymore on will reduce your profitability. Would you still want to do your bit to help the nation resolve the issue of unemployment?

 

Other staff in Tescos have had their hours reduced because the company can get the unemployed to do their work for nothing. If jobs are available then pay people to do the work for the time they are there. Give them some self respect and confidence back instead of using them like **** stained rags.

 

Doesn`t make for a happy work place does it when they are being asked to work as hard as someone on multiples of what they are receiving moneywise.

Probably get treat like foreigners as well with some of the workforce.

 

Double whammy is that the taxpayer is subsidising Tesco's wage bill.

 

They could then takeaway their benefits and pay them in clubcard vouchers.

 

Would take them 3 years of unpaid work to buy a loaf.

 

Re: Reight then ponty 72

So these companies aren't recruiting anymore? No room at the inn?

 

Re: Reight then ponty 72

Not saying that about the big boy's, but having worked in this area since the 1980's I know how difficult it is to help people with employment opportunities. These schemes are not necessarily invented for the big Co's, but there are many out there who would like to provide opportunities but cannot afford it without an incentive. Please believe me when I say that there are many employed today who got their job via similar schemes. Employers will only create jobs when there is a payback. Is there any proof that Tesco etc are cutting staff be it in numbers and/or hours to create placements? If there is they should be taken to task.

 

Re: Reight then ponty 72

If it is getting people back into work then that is great. But it needs monitoring properly to make sure that it isn't being abused, that is the bit that won't happen and will happen.

 

Re: Reight then ponty 72

No.

But if I didn't need the staff, I wouldn't employ (let's say) 5 blokes on a night shift and promise 'em all an interview at the end.

So you're either misleading the lads or you need the staff. And if you need the staff, employ 'em.

 

It's NOT solving the problem.