A disgrace to the shirt of BFC - Something has to change before we are relegated

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  1. Wat

    Wath and West Melton Well-Known Member

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    I have had some stick from certain members in here for the last few weeks about me stating that Hill is killing this club.....

    Are any of you starting to smell the coffee yet, we are in danger of being relegated becuase of Hill and the people above him who think they can take the p*ss out of the supporters by penny pinching on lower league dog sh*te.

    Hill......just like some of the dross he has brought in is killing our club, we were an absolute laughing stock today, Rob Green was in West Hams conga at one bit thats how much we worried him.

    Hill again clueless with his tactics and team choice and again stood like a frozen shop dummy on the touchline.

    Mick Mcarthy was on tv today commenting at the match, hope he sees how much our club and town need him.

    16 defeats in 21 games is it ????

    Cryne, Rowing ???? somebody needs to come out in public and speak to the supporters directly because Hill is out of his depth.

    The supporters deserve much much better than this absolute joke

    Spineless.........
     
  2. onemickybutler

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    I've been all for giving Hill time before but I really sense there's something drastically wrong. It's not just that the players we have signed aren't good enough, they don't have any stomach for a battle and that has to be down to the management team.
    I genuinely fear for the future. Our beloved club is on it's arse right now.
     
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    Too late pal. The die is cast.

    For what it's worth, I don't think there's any prospect of us going down - the clubs below us are showing no form. No way will all of them pick up the points to relegate us.

    But relegation next season is assured if we don't change tack.
     
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    You are still blaming Hill. It was poor from him today, no variation and no ideas but Cryne needs to move teh club on as he is killing it slowly.
     
  5. Wat

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    Redstar - yes mate Hill a lot of the blame but Cryne also

    Hill is clueless and out of his depth, for every 3 lower league dross he has wasted fees and wages on he could have put them together and got some championship quality in.

    We are all on having a shot on target in our remaining games never mind scoring and I fear relegation is getting more likely as the games go on.

    I hate to slag Cryne after what he has done for us but he got Hill in and Hill is killing the club..... its proper on its arse.

    The half time draw man has more chance of getting a result than the shop manequin Hill

    If we do stay up and Hill is in charge next season would you trust him with another penny of money......that team will be relegated by Xmas
     
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    Lol!
     
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    Re: Redstar - yes mate Hill a lot of the blame but Cryne also

    Give man, no team has EVER got relegated before xmas.
     
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    Re: Redstar - yes mate Hill a lot of the blame but Cryne also

    Let's be fair, the squad he built up pre-season and had for the first half of the season did pretty well, but recent replacements have looked poor - not convinced by Dawson, Golbourne, or Dagnall and Wiseman has faded badly as season has gone on, but others have done ok - Vaz Te, McNulty, Perkins and Drinkwater, Ranger and Smith on loan. I think it's really hard having to completely rebuild a squad half way through a season, with most clubs very unwilling to let their better players out on loan or sell in the transfer window, especially when you've only got peanuts to spend.

    That's why Keith deserves another pre-season to see if he can bring in some more gems and develop some of the youngsters like Digby and Rose.
     
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    Re: Redstar - yes mate Hill a lot of the blame but Cryne also

    we are what we are a league 1 team with league 1 players
     
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    Re: Redstar - yes mate Hill a lot of the blame but Cryne also

    If Cryne doesn't sell the club shortly we'll end up doing a Bradford and dropping through the leagues. I absolutely appreciate what the man did several seasons ago but like others have mentioned i think he can't be seriously trying to sell the club, why can't we attract a number of smaller investors and increase the size of the board instead of operating a closed shop of three people that are intent on letting the club slide. On top of that, we the fans, are patronised by a manager, who has a huge ego who gets off on spouting sh?!t at his pre match conferences. The man completely bores the pants off me, he talks as though he knows what he's doing. I beg to differ after witnessing that complete rubbish earlier this evening. Goldbourne, Dagnall, Dawson, Wiseman all not good enough for the Championship i'd even question their abilities plying their trade in league 2. Ditch the ego Keith because you're starting to look like a real prat with the total rubbish you're serving up. I'm afraid it's going to be 7,500 attendances next season and a certain relegation to the ale house league.
     
  11. Wat

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    Skywalkers Dad - Take a bow Sir, one of the best posts I've read on this forum !!

    The cash Hill has wasted on lower league dross could have been spent on the likes of Howard.

    I wouldn't trust Hill with another penny of BFC's cash as the remit is they have played for Rochdale or share the same agent as Hill !!!

    If this team stays up put your mortgage on them being relegated with a record number of lowest points becuase according to Hill he only needs 2 or 3 players to add to this squad, my god lets hope he signs Messi, Rooney and Jesus becuase it will be a miracle if we get anything more than 25 points next season with that team.

    In fact the team at present would also struggle in League One thats how poor it is.

    Said it all along - Lower League players = lower league team and thats where we are going with Hill, if not this season by the skin of our teeth but definately next.
     
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    Mick McCarthy spoke after the match

    Slightly paraphrasing but he said "It's all well and good knocking Barnsley, but Keith Hill's had to bring in players from the lower leagues. You wouldn't swap one West Ham player for any one of Barnsley's so West Ham should come here and win. Barnsley are safe."

    Went on to give Hill credit for the job he's done this season under difficult circumstances.

    But what the **** does he know eh ?
     
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    Re: Mick McCarthy spoke after the match

    Our current squad is the worst we've had at this level since the days of Gibbs and Donovan. They are a bunch of no hopers who aren't up to the task. I counted dozens leaving at half time, the Ponte was embarassingly empty and our club is on the road to nowhere. Why with our form should people spend hard earned money for a season ticket? There is nothing to get excited or optimistic about. Next season is going to be terribly long and painful. Lets just say we do get two million for Buttercup, would you trust Hilll with it to spend wisely? Instead of bringing in 2-3 quality players around the 500-750k mark with it he'd probably jusy buy more lower league *****. It's his team so he can't keep bringing out excuses. Of his signings only Davies and Perkins have impressed so far.
     
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    If Macca told it like it really was then that's the end of his tv pundit career

    He has to give politicians answers on tv, inside I bet he was embarrassed watching that dross, he'd could have put a pair of boots on himself yesterday and still did better that than our back four.

    Yes Macca was correct about West Ham and the quality they have but 11 lads out of the ponty would have been better on the park yesterday.

    Whats the excuse for being spineless when you are on thousands a week ?????

    Some of the players you can't really blame as Hill has brought them here and they are obviously not championship quality and never will be whilst they have a hole in their backside. They have come from lower league probably on a few hundred a week to earning £2/3 k a week so its like winning the lotto for them.

    Hills fetched them in and he's at fault. The money he's had he has mostly p*ssed up the wall on lower league gambles, he hasn't spent wisely at all. He talks about getting used to championship level, well neary 40 games in and the majority still aren't good enough.

    Meanwhile Tonge sits on the bench playing sleeping lions with Keith Hill.

    Get the prayer mats out today hoping Bristol and Cov don't win.
     
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    Re: Mick McCarthy spoke after the match

    Done? McNulty? Dawson? - I've been impressed with the performances of these three.

    They haven't done it every game, but for the majority they have.

    No manager gets every signing right.

    And if Hill had done an O'Driscoll and spent all his money on one player (Billy Sharp) who then got injured and was out for the season, what would have been the reaction then?

    I don't know the budget Hill was promised, and I doubt if any on here do. But that would have to account for wages, agent's fees, and the actual fees themselves.
     
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    2 or 3 around the 500-750k mark ?

    Then the 2mill is gone and you still have to pay their wages.

    Gambling is a piece of **** when it's not your money and there's no comeback on you for failure.

    And you're way off the mark imho when you call the current squad 'no hopers'.
     
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    Re: Mick McCarthy spoke after the match

    Oh yes I forgot about Done. Too early to say on Dawson he's not played enough. Mcnulty mistimes the ball and yesterday thought he'd rugby tackle their player to get himself booked. So 3 possibly upto 5 of his signings have been good. Many more like Smith, Dagnall etc have not been.
     
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    Re: If Macca told it like it really was then that's the end of his tv pundit career

    No he wasn't being diplomatic, his comments on 2 footed challenges in the Premiership showed that.

    But he knows football, he knows what the financial status of clubs are and he knows what Hill's dealing with.

    The performance last night was crap, end of, but taken in the round and considering the upheavals mid season survival is key, Hill's got a Championship season under his belt, the new players have too and we can hopefully move on.

    Or we get shut and start afresh. On **** all a yard.
     
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    Agree with most of that - survival is the be all and end all this season now......but

    where is the next point coming from ??????????

    Blackpool could get 6 Monday if we play like we have been.....

    Hill and the team are now relying on other results as this is our only chance becuase our players can't do it by themselves as they aren't up to it.

    If Bristol and Cov both win today we are in serous danger.
     
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    Re: Agree with most of that - survival is the be all and end all this season now.....

    Looking at the upcoming fixtures, a lot of the sides below us play each other which could save us without getting another point - which is gutting and frustrating if we don't take care of business ourselves but that's how it is.
     

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