Can we get one thing straight FFS.....

..all the 'eejits' on here who blame, Don Rowing, Stay away fans, time of month whatever for Barnsley's current status. IMO... wrong! wrong! wrong!

The blame lies with football not an individual club or set of fans. I (and many many others) will NOT set foot in Oakwell or any other until it offers VALUE FOR MONEY on a consistent basis. If you think it still does then bully for you you clearly are aiming low! However, dont come on this board slagging off stay away fans calling them 'Glory seekers' 'closet Manure / Chelsea fans'.

BFC have probably got it right i.e. making the books balance but are out of sync with the majority opf other clubs. I agree that Don Rowing is probably not the greatest business thinker or innovator but why should he be as that is not the real problem?

As it stands football will be eeventually divide into a small elite with wealthy benefactors and a fan base made up of corporate clients and wealthy high earners and the rest of the clubs will be reduced to part-timers eking out a living with relatively small fan bases for each club. Why should we pay ridiculous ticket prices (in the current climate anything more than £15 for an hour and a half of often dubious live entertainment is too much). The only answer (and I doubt it will happen soon) is a wages cap or several clubs to go bust,

In the meantime I, and many thousands will desert the game rather than see our hard earned money going to pay so called star performers tens or even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week. Football in general needs to change rather than BFC. Not holding my breath though!

 

you have some fair points there sir.

however the don is still an inept business leader

hth

 

I dont blame The Don for the low attendances..........but its as plain as the nose on his face (and its a fair whopper) why the fans are staying away from the WELL.
So why has The Don said something to the Chron about this?..........seems silly to me

 

So you blame football itself, praise Barnsley FC but won't set foot in Oakwell.

Brilliant "logic".

 

Seems pretty obvious to me that, rather than paying £28 per game (or whatever it may be that particular week), start putting £25 per month (or £5.77 per week) into a shoe box under your bed in May. By the following May, unless the missus has found it, you should have £300 to pay for your early bird season ticket. So you're saving throughout the year in advance for it, but once you have you get to see every match for a few pennies over £13, you get to choose your own seat for the year, you're guaranteed to sit next to your mate for the Leeds/Wednesday games and you get a much better chance of grabbing a ticket the next time we get drawn at Anfield or Old Trafford (when everybody decides they want to go to an away game for a change).

£28 is too much to pay for a second flight football game. I'd say no more than £20 is a fair price. That's why I get a season ticket and pay £13 per game.

 

I can never understand these offers that keep coming for the ticket prices. £12.50 or Blackpool, £20 for Peterborough wtf? Okay the Blackpool one fair enough celebration and all, but because crowds are low, more offers like the Peterborough one will be forthcoming. Pay on the day customers want to know 1 thing, the matchday price. Just make the fecking thing £20 or £22 push the advertising like hell pre season, and leave it alone!

 

Some astute observations. I suppose a lot of it depends on how much Barnsley FC is "in the blood". Some fans will go and cheer on the team regardless of cost and the standard of football served up. I used to think I was one of those, until at some point during Davey's reign I realised that I was no longer looking forward to matches. In fact, I loathed having to make time for them because I knew it would cost a lot of money to watch dull games in a ground with no atmosphere and with players of increasingly lower standards of ability. It got to the point where I wasn't going to cheer for the sake of it. I was paying good money to watch people earning more in 90 minutes than I got in a month, so I demanded to be entertained. When that entertainment wasn't forthcoming, I found other things to do with my time. And the worst bit? I haven't missed it at all. Getting people like me back will take more than a couple of cheap deals per season. That's if they can get me back at all.

 

You can speak for yourself but I dont see how you can speak for every single stay away fan. And what about all the fans who feel as frustrated as you but still turn up every week - where do we fit into this?

 

A season like '96/'97 would bring a fair few back.

 

I think £20 is a fair price for 90 minutes of "entertainment". I remember when it was £6, but then I remember you get into a gig for £10 without having to pay a fee for booking, a fee to ticketmaster, a fee to the bloke who administers the fees.......

If you look at a comparible sport - say Rugby League - a season ticket at Wakefield Wildcats its really cheap - £100 for 13 games - so that's less than a tenner a game.
If you turn up at Leeds Rhino's, for example, its £20 on the door for adults.

I don't think the season ticket price is such a big issue, its the matchday price where demand is much more elastic - most fans aren't season ticket holders - lets say we have 6.5k season ticket holders, we probably have another 18k floating fans who come for the odd game. The question is what is their price sensitivity - will they come to less games after a certain price? Or will they continue to come to a set number of games regardless? They are the ones the club needs to get int the ground more regularly.

 

don't care what stayaway fans think tbh,not so many years ago we almost didn't have a club to support in any division let alone moan about. so as long as club get's on an even keel to survive in the harsh enviroment of buisness football and keeps us as a footbaling town so be it as far as i'm concerned.
i am sick to death of so called fans demanding we spend x amount of money we just don't have to get there interest, well fek off as far as i'm concerned i just don't give a toss about them i'll still be there as will a good many reasonably minded people on this board and beyond.
whether we like it or not football is a buisness and we are lucky to have board members who care about the club as a whole and not just as a buisness, a la pompey if it were as easy as some of the suggestions thats been bandied about speculate to accumalate etc it would have been done imo.so if the stay aways want us to risk our status before they grace us with their company let em stay away , it will be hard to be a lower league club again but at least we'll have a club.
just hope the board recognises the st's and the fans who for some reason or another havn't got one but get to as many as they can are recognised, especially this season. rant over

 

If you don't like it, don't turn up.

You're speaking for yourself, nobody else.

 

thing is LD we're keeping the club going during (in their view) the mundane times then as has been said a few times when the good times come alond they're back on the wagon.

 

I have, as you say, kept the club going since 1981 with my money. Not proclaiming to be better or worse than you, bu get off your fecking high horse.

 

so you think it alright for some on here to post there views but not others. ive looked at thread after thread of people slamming the club and its peers and you have not commented but when someoner contradicts you posdt to slam them. well fek you mr

 

The majority of fans at all clubs aren't season ticket holders, season ticket holders are the exception, not the average fan. If you look at Barnsley, clearly there are more fans who aren't season ticket holders then are, same with Man Utd. There's no point in slagging off fans for not being season ticket holders, because that's the norm.

 

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