I've heard a few people say that if we get a new striker then we'll be fine.

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  1. SuperTyke

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    Well I hope that whoever we get is capable of scoring 2 goals every game because otherwise we're still fecked.

    1 clean sheet in 9 games, only three all season (that's 18 games).

    Unless I have read the stats wrong we have kept 6 clean sheets in the last 48 games under keith hill. Chuffing SIX in well over a season.

    And people think a striker will sort everything out for us? It won't, he can score every week and we'll still only pick up one point at best.

    New defender and the reinstating of Sir bobby at the back is an absolute must if we are to stay in this division.
     
  2. Marlon

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    a striker is a must
    while ever teams see us playing football and being no threat to their goal they will grow in confidence which has happened all season apart from birmingham.a decent striker will give teams something to think about and limit their own attacking ambitions.imo
     
  3. Mrs

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    Give the strikers to summat to feed off and get the midfielders shooting from edge of box and stop overplaying the ball and we may not have to bring anyone in yet.

    Better use could be made from what we already have.
     
  4. MarioKempes

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    I feel sorry for our defenders, the centre halves in particular because I don't think we have a **** defence but the formation we play leaves them cruelly exposed at times. We need proper width if we're going to start winning games.
     
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    got to agree with you there mrs, we put two big strikers on and two wingers and never got to see what they could do as we then opted to hoof the ball up the field, bewildering.
    birmingham, apart we have not given our attacking options an airing this season either by overplaying or too many wrong decisions in the danger areas.
     
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    can you actually see any of this happening?.....I cant.
     
  7. Mrs

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    At the moment no, but hopefully Jimbob, RNL might shake things up by running at em rather than playing pretty triangles and getting nowhere. Thats if he picks Lazarus again.
     
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    You're sacked! [​IMG]
     
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    TBF 8 teams have conceded more goals than us....but only 1 has scored fewer...on that basis a striker would be my priority.
     
  10. KamikazeCo-Pilot

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    I'll reiterate what I said a few days ago.... we arent a million miles away. The performances per se have been ok and it's just the cutting edge we are lacking in my opinion. I'm sure Hill knows that and on the budget he has (or hasn't) he will be working to sort that out. I am peed off with recent results but I am confident we will turn things around.
     
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    It is creating chances we are lacking,we could have a striker like Drogba up front if we never get the ball in to the box to him he wont score, we pitty pat around then when the defence are all back and ready we pitty pat around again, then on n3-4 occasions we get the ball in it is only close to a striker once, if he does not score every time he gets the ball in the danger area then we lose.
    Birmingham is the only time we have got the ball into dangerous areas regularly.
     
  12. Dys

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    I like these Supertyke stats.

    1 (Charlton) clean sheet in 9 games. Before that, 3 in 7 (Boro, Bristol City & Brum). So this season we've had a clean sheet in 25% of our league games.

    You're saying reinstating Bobby is a must to help us keep more clean sheets, yeah? So here are the stats:

    Played in just half of our games this season has Sir Bob. One clean sheet in all those and he got sent off.
    Last season he played in 21 games - 4 clean sheets. 1 after coming on as sub in the second half and one after being replaced in 30 minutes by Scott 'shagged everyone's wife to piss 'em off' Wiseman.

    So the facts don't say that bringing Bobby back in will shore up a defence that has a relatively decent record this season (25 goals in 16 league games). So in more than half of our games this season we've conceded 1 or less. Not a bad record.

    We're going to conceded goals - our team isn't as good as others in the league. But when you only score in two thirds of your games (and when you do it's only 1) you're going to struggle.

    So, in summary, yes - you are reading the stats wrong.
     
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    ahmen
     
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    I'm wi thee. Our problem isn't the defence, it's the attack. Two 10 minute spells against Peterborough and Forest at home and the Brighton game away aside, the defence has looked pretty solid to me. I'd still play Bobby at right back, at the moment I think he's the best option, but I don't think he'd suddenly transform us in to the most water tight defence in the league. Although I do think he may have helped prevent a few goals that have been set up from crosses down our right. It seems to me that is our most vulnerable area and I think Bobby would help shore that up.

    We wouldn't get nearly the same attacking options from Bobby, but I think that's a problem in itself. When I said it's our attack that's weak, I don't mean that a better striker would suddenly solve our problems. We struggle to score goals because of the way our team is set up and the tactics we employ. Our full backs are expected to provide all the attacking threat down our flanks. Personally I think wingers and midfielders, players who are traditionally more skilful than fullbacks, would be far better at this task. It's no surprise to me that Golbourne and Stones have set up very few goals. It's no surprise either that our slow, methodical approach to building attacks does not result in many chances.

    We could have the best four defenders in the Championship and we'd still be down the bottom of the league. We'd still concede goals on the break due to our fullbacks backs being isolated up the field providing the width in attack and we'd still be failing to create chances and score goals.
     
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    Too logical. We need to sign a big bad centre half like Darren Moore or Jason Shackell 'cos we were water tight when we had them.
     
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    Boring fact: each time we score multiple of two goals under Hill, we have won. This year only scored more than one in the league, at Birmingham
     
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    We need to mix up how we play and be a little more direct at times.
     
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    Its all about who scores first

    if we score first, possession football is how we've won games, but when we concede first, possession football doesnt ge3nerally get us back into it, and we have nothing on the bench that can come on and change things.

    Davies is central to how that formation and style of play fits together, he was really providing a threat on goal, I was noticing a swagger about him, full of confidence, looking a top Championship striker before he got injured. I tend to agree that getting a n other striker in wont necessarily solve the problem, my hope is that it might improve confidence in front of goal and if we manage to take the lead in a game, I'd still back us to get something.
     
  19. Mrs

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    Very Team Barnsley.

    What happened to we attack as a team and we defend as a team.

    They scored a good goal on Setdi and 3 players were int line up for biggest culprit. Good innit.
     
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    Is he officially back from the dead? I'll get mi coit.
     

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