Sorry Keith, but

Enough's enough. I've backed you from day one when others were calling you Steve Parkin MkII. The collapse from February last season was really bad, but I felt you deserved the opportunity to put things right. Up to the end of September I thought the quality of football and commitment on the field were laying the foundations for a safe, reasonable season. Since then, it feels as if we've walked off the top of a cliff with regards to performances and results. I still felt it was right to show you loyalty and belief. If that makes me a small minded, short sighted supporter lacking the wisdom and footballing knowledge of others, so be it. I can't alter that.
However, even when you've been presented with the opportunity to bring in Championship standard players, you've still failed to stop the slide. If anything, things are getting worse, with basic errors continuing to be made especially in defence. Were we to have an upturn in results, no one will be convinced it'd be anything other than a flash in the pan.
I think it's time for you to leave, Keith.

 

oh good god now I really am worried!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Me too!!

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You've echoed my sentiments exactly. I feel a little bit let down by Keith and his team.

 

I hate to say it Kev but I too am loosing confidence after backing Hill from day 1.

 

Well if it's good enough for biglil it's good enough for me, but 64 thousand dollar question, who replaces hill ?

 

I completely agree with every word Kev. I don't feel like I can support him any longer. Thanks Keith but I think you've reached the end of the road and it's time to go.

 

Have to say I agree, I'm hoping that it will take some time for the new players to integrate into the team, but the fundamental issues with the defence and tactics aren't going to get fixed anytime soon I'm afraid.

 

I can't believe anyone on here

Is enjoying our current predicament, whichever approach they've had to Keith Hill. Fans want their club to be successful, even if they're not keen on the manager.

 

i still think he'll do a job kev but i am getting a bit worried and he.s cutting it a bit fine but i have a few ?s to ask about his recruitment and selection . i'm still sure that the team that played middleborough,birmingham, leeds and charlton is still there somewhere

 

Common sense dictates

It'd require an experienced Championship manager, currently out of work, to get us out of this position, rather than a raw, up and coming boss from the lower leagues. This would mean the same old names would be mentioned, assuming they'd be interested in the job, of course. Therefore, the likes of Billy Davies, Phil Brown, Paul Jewel, Gary Megson and (possibly in the next few days) Dave Jones. Whoever comes in will bring some 'baggage' with them and no one will be universally accepted, or liked. Unfortunately, we're not in a position to be picky, beggars like us can't be choosers.

 

these other teams are getting their act together marlon..we arnt,simple as that.

 

I don't think it's defence or tactics.

It's his whole passing philosophy.

It does not work without forward momentum

 

I'm worried now you are losing faith, maybe I'm pig headed, but I will give him to just after christmas to turn it round, I still think if he can turn it round he will go on to be a good manager for us. BUT, BUT, BUT, just to be on the safe side I hope the powers that be are making contingency plans ready for a quick change of manager if things don't get better.

 

Re: Common sense dictates

The thing is mate, most of those managers will request a budget to go with the job because they want to protect their reputation. We haven't got the budget by the looks of things. He's only just been given a bit more freedom in the market. Watford are a good side. I think he should be given until Xmas. I always respect and read your posts with interest but not with you on this one

If we could say bring in billy Davies I would be up for it, but just can't see it happening. Would have loved mick McCarthy but again, he would have demanded a big budget. Out of the above perhaps jewell might come as he is on a downward spiral (although he requested 12m budget at derby I am pretty sure) and perhaps Megson. The problem is not Keith hill so much (although I think he has made fundamental errors in not improving the defence) but the budget and the crowds, in my humble opinion. There is no solution to this apart from investment.

 

Re: Common sense dictates

That's the problem with looking to make a change for me. I don't think any of the ones on the list above are actually realistic options after the last recruitment exercise. I think we'd be shopping in the Russell Slade, Kevin Blackwell market again and I honestly don't think we'd attract any of the above based on likely salary, transfer budget, etc. That's why I can't find any realistic alternative to Hill among the candidates I think we'd be realistically considering. The closest, and most appealing one, would be Steve Davis and, to me, that's a massive risk which wouldn't justify the cost of making the change.

The rot started when the Board pulled the plug on last season in January, and all the papering over the cracks since then hasn't changed that fact. Until anything changes with regard to the running of the club above Hill then I can't see any reason to waste what limited funds we have available in paying off a manager and replacing him with someone who will struggle to do anything better.

It's like the famous Einstein quote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. 4 managers in a row have defined what our realistic expectation is at present, and the current one is working with more limited resources than the last 3 did.

 

Fair enough, mate

The names I quoted were just off the top of my head and I did say "assuming they'd be interested in the job, of course." If the available budget wasn't to their liking, then I doubt they'd want the position anyway.

 

You could well be right

It's certainly going to make Wednesday's meeting with Don Rowing interesting, as it was he who gave the Einstein quote.

 

Re: Fair enough, mate

I know, and that's the problem I keep coming back to when I think about this (and believe me I'm as frustrated as everyone else with the current form and the lack of a centre-half signing). I work through the list in my head of who's out there and whether I think they're realistic options or not and I always come back to the conclusion that none of the one's I think we could attract are worth the cost of the upheaval, so the only conclusion I come back to is to keep faith with Hill.

Everything comes back to the financial constraints we have, at the end of the day, and they're the underlying problem (and there's no obvious solution to that one).

 

Re: You could well be right

Really? I thought it was Albert Einstein

(Amazing, I can still find a smiley from something amongst the gloom!)

To be honest, I'd forgotten that The Don had used that quote already, but you've jogged my memory on that now.