Hilflicker lovers...

The change of manager at Ipswich seems to have worked wonders.

 

So you want Mick McCarthy then? Seems a bit of a long shot to me, somehow.

Otherwise, what's your point?

 

Yet you were so opposed to Davey getting the push!!!!! What is so different now?

 

Doesn't seem to me like he wants Mick McCarthy. It seems to me he is suggesting that changing the manager can have a positive effect, despite what some people will tell you.

 

That depends on which manager you get.

 

Yes it looks like expensive top manager Mick McCarthy is getting Ipswich's expensive team with several expensive premier league players and expensive top championship players moving at last...............................what has this remotely to do with us?

 

Maybe, a less expensive manager, could get Barnsley`s less expensive team with plenty of less expensive lower league players and less expensive low championship players moving at last ?

That could be what it has to do with us and you already knew that didn`t you?
I cannot see where he says we should have Macca at all !

 

Your right but would some of our fans wanted him sacking after conceding 11 goals in his first 2 games.

 

Why are some of our fans always wanting to make out the rest of Barnsley fans are ****ers?
Barnsley fans are NO DIFFERENT to any other fans, If they cant come on an internet site and vent their frustrations , I find it baffling to say the least!

 

Given our overall situation, changing managers now is just as risky as leaving Keith in charge. And I've got splinters in my arse.

 

did I say he did?

 

The appointment of McCarthy seems to have. The Ipswich board seem to have appointed well. Long way to go like.

Who should we get you reckon to give us a similar lift ?

 

I was answering a couple of posts at once, it is further up the one asking if he wanted Macca, sorry for the confusion!
i feel like Hemmsy now

 

Genuine, and fair question: Who would you bring in as a replacement for Hill? Someone cheap, with a good record, who would come here, that is unemployed (as we can't afford to sack Hill and staff and pay for someone else plus staff)?

 

From a personal point of view I wouldn't sack Keith. I wouldn't know who to bring in if we did. But there's been an argument put out on here that the manager doesn't make much difference. It's the money that counts and because we're poor we're doomed to be fighting off relegation. Recruitment matters, the players in your squad matter, what the manager does is neither here nor there.

I think Mick McCrthy, in a very short period of time, is showing that isn't true. I think Danny Wilson did the same when he took over. Danny didn't sign a single player in that first season, yet he transformed us from relegation candidates to a play-off outfit. Man management, even in this day and age where football is awash with money, still counts for something.

I haven't completely given up on Keith. But I am certain there are managers out there that could have done better with this squad of players than Keith has done so far. No idea if we could get such managers in like, and at the moment I wouldn't even try, but I personally believe our budget doesn't guarantee failure and a good manager can make a difference.

 

. I think Danny Wilson did the same when he took over. Danny didn't sign a single player in that first season, yet he transformed us from relegation candidates to a play-off outfit.

to be be fair once he took a more proactive involvement in things in the jan of that year we did improve and so did his performances too

 

Manager makes a massive difference. But I don't think we can attract the calibre of manager that ipswich can.

 

I'm too young to remember properly Jay, but didn't you say the other day the second half of the previous season under Anderson had been promotion form? And didn't Wilson then bring in De Zeeuw, Wilkinson and Hendrie to add to that team?

I don't disagree with your general point though and good managers can certainly make a difference, but I'm surprised Ipswich are being used as an example here. They have sacked Magilton, Keane and now Jewell at vast expense and without any long term improvement after an immdediate upturn in form. McCarthy may well prove to be the exception, but if managers of that calibre continue to fail then you have to consider it isn't the manager that's the problem.

 

My point was that, unless it is suggesting we go out and appointment McCarthy, then the OP is a completely irrelevant statement as far as BFC's situation is concerned. If not, then it's using a sample of one (based on a few weeks data) as some sort of conclusive argument against Hill.

Perhaps it would have been easier to simply reply with "The lack of change of manager at Manchester United seems to have worked wonders."

 

Yeah but they had to sack a few before they got Bacon face! Maybe we just have not gone through enough, because this one is not very good either!!