Just listening to the bloke from the NRA...

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  1. qqkachew

    qqkachew Member

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    ... blaming the politicians for not arming the teachers so they could have protected kids from "monsters".

    Unbelievable. What a truely f***ed up country.
     
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    iif you have ever been here any length of time you would know its less f---ed up than the UK.

    The view of one group doesnt make the whole country f---ed up
     
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    On the issue of guns I think that it's more than just the NRA that is ****ed up. Last year more people than the entire population of Barnsley were shot in america.
     
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    and how many in the UK compare that to the size of america and im guessing there would be around the same gun related crime.
     
  5. Gloria Stitts

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    I know, that whole "we need a gun to protect our property" thing, how often does that prove to be the case?

    Much more likely the gun will be used against the householder, or a family member will be shot by accident, or it will be used for suicide.

    Wonder who funds the NRA as well, arms companies by any chance?
     
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    Honestly, listening to that guy I did not know whether to laugh, cry or just swear at the TV. Utter imbecile.

    I don't for 1 minute believe that he represents the views of the American nation as a whole. But when gun ownership is 93 per 100 of population (a lot of people have more than one gun, so it is not 93% of Americans that own guns) and the number is 4 per 100 of population in the U.K., then you look at the stats for gun deaths in the 2 countries (10,000 v <100) you would think that the NRA and Joe Public might just spot the correlation. I think I know which country is more f****d.
     
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    i for one oppose guns and there use, the people whi say they need them to protect property are more than likely living out in the sticks and in hunting regions.

    other than that most other gun owners come from the under privleged and its these people that are causing the problem i believe
     
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    Funnily enough, I read that it was quite the opposite - the majority of gun owners are the white middle-class.
     
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    Ha Ha! - Guess again.

    The exact figures will differ slightly depending on which article you read, and which year they refer to, but the one I am reading says that in one year USA gun related deaths totalled more than 31,300. The same article says that in one year, gun related deaths in the UK totalled 42. Fourty bloody two.

    Your Sandy Hook maniac killed half as many people in 6 minutes as is killed in the UK in one year.

    In the USA, the number of people wiped out by guns equates to the population of a medium sized town. In the UK, the number of people wiped out by guns equates about the number of people you'd find on a rush hour bus.

    The USA figure is 745 times the UK figure. Is the population of the USA 745 times that of the UK?. No it is approx 6 times that of the UK.


    So no, whichever way you look at it, the rate of gun crime in the USA does not equate the the UK's rate when population differences are taken into account - not even close.
     
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    most of the atrocities are caused by middle class people in us.
    think your being braiwashed by the yank press tbh redarmy
     
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    I say we sneak in to America at night and swap their guns for super soakers, that ought to lighten the mood.
     
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    47% of white americans own guns, only 21% of blacks do.
    45% of 45-65 year olds compared to 34% of 18-29 year olds.
    Only 30% of households earning under $30k a year, the lowest % of all earnings. The highest percentage (43%) earning between 50 and 100k
     
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    so because i mentioned the under priveleged you automatically think im on about black americans, that just shows how words can get twisted.

    if i travel ten minutes from where i live im into the white under priveleged suburbs, which have apparently gotten like this in the last 5 years.

    so dont even start to twist my words into some racist thing
     
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    The guns used by black and Hispanic gangster types in the ghettos aren't legally owned weapons though and won't turn up in those figures.

    It is true that outside of the dangerous inner cities areas the crime rate is actually lower than the UK so they do distort the crime figures somewhat.
     
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    i cant remember the last time i watched a news bulletin or read a paper here, LOL.

    Im normally watching sport,friends,or the big bang theory
     
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    Was that supposed to be a reply to me or to calgarytyke?
     
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    thanks you are correct, i suspect if you could get a true % then the hispanic/latino group would probably be the ones that owned the most number of guns here.
     
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    it was just a general reply supertyke
     
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    It must have been aimed at somebody if you were accusing them of twisting your words into racism.
     
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    quite a few of those posts seem to mention black americans, i didnt want to come across or sterotype, as people seem to do these days.
     

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