If we beat Leeds will Hills clone Flitcroft get the job ?? What a scary thought

I had a weird premonition a few months ago that Flitcroft would be our manager come the end of the season and do well. Not that that really counts for anything, I have lots of strange thoughts all day long. Nothing too strange though.

I also share Hill's philosophy and Flitcroft's. I don't know much of anything that has gone on behind the scenes but it sounds like Hill has fallen out with a few people to me. But he wasn't far away from having a successful team imho and did a lot of things right. He did a lot of things wrong. Flitcroft seems slightly less stubborn and certainly less arrogant, a couple of Hill's traits that began to grate. I dunno, perhaps he deserves a crack and could turn out to be decent. The players seem to like him, which is important.

 

So is Flicker all to blame for all of it. He was not in charge Hill was. Flicker did not come out with all the crap ****y interviews, he just got on the sidelines giving his all shouting to the players and trying to get a win

 

Did you go to Morcambe?

It was good Ernie.....

 

The fact of the matter is, the next manager of Barnsley FC is going to have to be backed by the board. I can't see anyone, coming in and taking this current crop of players on and working a miracle.

I mean, come on, our strikeforce comprises of a striker who in his prime was nowhere near a 20 goal a season man and is probably at best only good for 8/9 goals a season now (Harewood). A "striker" that although works hard and runs around a lot, hasn't a prayer of ever scoring more than 8 goals in the Championship (Dagnall) and a couple of youth players who we really have no right on pinning our hopes to get us out of the mess we are currently in.

Nope, the board is going to have to give the next manager some funds in which to bring some bodies in, and we have to hope that he can bring in the right players for the task ahead with the meagre funds that may be made available.

 

I've been to Morecambe once and I wouldn't willingly go back.

 

I'm confused. You're saying that Flitcroft deserves a chance and saying he could surprise people on the one hand, then on the other hand you're slating the group of player he's had a major part in assembling.

 

So what was Flitcroft then? Assistant manager or cheerleader?

 

Just think it would be 2 wins in 3 games...if I were a Wednesday fan I'd be looking at the play off places again!!

 

He was part of the management team that assembled the squad we currently have with the small pot of funds that they were given. A pot of funds that comes nowhere close to even the likes of Peterborough United, nevermind the likes of Blackburn and Leicester. I'm not blaming them for the squad we currently have, as it's a squad representational of the meagre transfer kitty provided. There is a chance that we could of course survive with this team, and Flitcroft may well find the formula for doing just that, but I don't think so. What I'm saying is that Flitcroft knows the players and can add quality to the current crop if given the chance, whereas a new manager at this stage would require some bedding in.

 

So what you are saying is that he was part of wasting what little money we had on quantity rather than quality.

Or players on his agents books. Allegedly.

 

It depends on how many individual football philosophies you believe there to be and how defined they are from one another. Everyone likes to believe they play attractive football and it always comes down to scoring more goals than you let in. Even Clough and Taylor had their disagreements, even fallings out but between them they more often than not got it right.

Hill and Flicker struck me as a co-dependent relationship, like a mutual support system and not a completely healthy one as regards being an independent self motivated person out in the world. The way it looks now perhaps, is - and I can only speak for myself - that Keith needed Flicker more than Flicker needed Keith. That was a radically different game plan at Peterborough and I suspect a nail in the coffin for Keith and how he'd gone about things previously. All the time, Flicker was thinking differently. Everything we had criticised in Keith's formations, Flicker had attempted to address in a very short space of time. And that isn't a maverick senior pro, that's his assistant and his best mate. So much for a shared philosophy. If we'd have won, and we should have, it would have been as good as telling Keith he was wrong to his face.

A win and a good performance against Leeds and we are going to have to take Flitcroft seriously. It's not about who is the right or perfect manager for us, or who is the best manager we can realistically employ - it's about scraping enough points to stay up. And if we look like we are pointing upwards, it would be wise to support that with everything we've got because there will be plenty of time for transition in league one.

 

Did Anderson whisper in Danny's ear about team selection :-/

 

Flitcroft has known the players for 18 months and has been incapable of getting a win a month out of them for the last year, whereas a new manager often has a honymoon period where they can go on a 5 or 6 game unbeaten spell. I think thats the only hope we can cling on to at this time.

 

Wilson worked with the players before he got the job - flitcroft may have had input but it was hill's decision at the end of the day as to who played. To be honest I'd rather have someone who is more experienced

 

I think that is what the board have gambled on by sacking Hill mid-season, but all the uncertainty might have already killed that energetic reaction. That response might well happen with Flicker and if it looks like it is after the Leeds match, I would just let him go with it. The danger is, the longer it goes on it becomes a case of making two managerial changes in succession and that can't be healthy for anyone. I think this is where the players' heads are at, judging by Luke's comments today.

 

2 options in this situation.

Either someone who's been here before, knows what to do to rally the players and get a reaction to fight for survival.

Or, go down the legends route, some kind of Redfern/Higgy/Moore/Eden combination which may instigate a reaction from the players and possibly get the support of the fans and put bums on seats.

Which is the right way to go is very tricky.

Which to go for?

I for one haven't a clue.

 

It would depend on who would come in as to the reaction they would get, thats why I think Butcher would have been a good option.

 

I don't think Hill will be involved in it at all. Flicker will make the calls, he has got Mellon and Scott to work with. Hill will be moving on, probably trying to get work.

 

We'll never know now, mate. I was thinking the same about Paul Ince, but it's just dragging on too long. Flicker is starting to look like the best bet for me, see how we do against Leeds.