Jacob Butterfield, a wasted talent?

I can see him going down hill very quick.
I was disappointed when he left and not only him leaving but the way he left.
He messed the club and the fans around. He seemed to think he was some sort of superstar. I'm not sure if this was because of his time at Manchester united around.

He waited and waited in the summer and signed for another club at the last minute. He was going on holiday with friends and not putting his career at the front of his mind and now its come to bite him on the bum as he spends another game on the bench.

It really wouldn't surprise me if he was in league 1 or two in a year or two.

Since i joined the board in 08, i always talked up the bradford born midfielder but its really hard to think of him in a positive light.

 

Can see Whitey popping up in a minute. I agree with you Phil, he said he didn't want to be another Hammill who signed for a Premier League club and get shipped out on loan constantly. That's exactly what'll happen now!

 

That first line is open to abuse on the quote function.

 

Maybe he will but you know ive always rated him.

 

You can't blame him taking the opportunity though. Anyone in their right mind would.

 

he's not made the right choice Dyson. If he had stayed another 6/12 month he could have gone into that team or another prem team with confidence and a will to show your self. you cant do that in a gym.

 

I think we need to wait and see how he is next season. But it wouldn't surprise me to see him drop out of the PL in the summer.

 

How do you know? Sometimes chances don't come back again.

Lack of form, change of manager etc. You never know. In my opinion you should take every opportunity that comes your way - you can't risk it going wrong.

 

"bradford born midfielder" make it sound like you wrote it for a newspaper column

 

Correct and that doesn't just apply to footballers.

 

IMO he should have backed his self.

Get back fit and then move.

J Butland didn't jump at the first club he turned down offers until the right deal came along with the right club.

 

Agree entirely.

 

Bit harsh Hemsie. His career is at the crossroads admittedly, but downhill from where? If he's doing well on loan at a championship club, it's most likely he'll get a transfer at the end of the season though I wouldn't like to guess how far his value has fallen. I don't think he would generally be very welcome at Oakwell and Norwich did him the right thing by him not letting him come back here.
Adam Hammill though, unfinished business there. Could you imagine the football Flicker would get out of him?

 

Here I am.

I'm biased, but even if I wasn't, I'd still defend him.

He wanted to extend his contract Summer 2011, the club weren't interested. He then became our standout player for much of the first half of that season, and then the club DID want to talk contracts, whilst at the same time hyping him up as the next best thing to inflate a possible transfer fee.

He would have left in January, no doubt about it. And believe me, the queue of Prem clubs chasing him was very long. But then, as captain of our club, in a derby game against Leeds, he was cruelly injured by a thug. He tried to continue, but his knee was ******. And that, his 100th appearance for us was the last time he'd wear our shirt.

He then went through surgery, rehab, as well as sorting out his future. And remember, the injury he suffered was career-threatening. So he spent weeks and weeks thinking his next move over, and promised our club (Keith and Flicker) that he'd only leave for a Prem club.

He was very close to a Newcastle move, but then Norwich came calling late in the day and promised him the chance of regular Prem football, on a 4 year contract, on money you could retire on.....

But no. He's a lovely person. He ****** the club and fans about.

He nearly had his promising career ended, whilst representing our club, and without ever making any real money. He was the lowest paid first teamer last season. So do you blame him, Hemsworth, for grasping the golden opportunity to perhaps play in the so-called "best league in the world" and earn himself enough money to secure his and his family's future?

He then went to Norwich whilst still in rehab, and unable to join in with the rest of the squad during pre-season.
He was expected to play in the under 21's to aid his recovery, but impressed enough once fit to start in the League Cup against Donny where the Norwich fans said he was their best player.

Unfortunately, he then suffered another injury that set him back again. And after another appearance in a victory over Spurs in the same Cup, he asked if he could join a Championship club on loan, as he wanted to play games.
He wanted to return here, but Norwich (Hughton) chose Bolton, where in limited appearances he was often their standout player.
He's recently gone to Palace, and he's getting minutes, experience, in what is all about recovery this season.

So in answer to your question, Hemsworth, no, I don't think Jacob Butterfield is a wasted talent. It's been 4 months since he returned to full fitness.
If in 3 years time he's been shipped out by Norwich without playing in the Prem, and he's struggling in League One or whatever like Brian Howard etc, then maybe I'll agree. But I don't see that happening. But as I said at the start, I'm biased.

Finally, may I ask you a question, Hemsworth?

If in 8 months time, John Stones is on loan to a Championship side will you question whether he too is a wasted talent?

How's about we look back on the great performances that our young Academy products made, rather than looking to pounce, eh?

Sithi.

 

Butland was going to first club who put a sizeable bid in.

He'd have come barnsley if we we'd bid the money.

 

If Stones can't get in to one of the best clubs in the county then he may have to go out on loan. Maybe he might even have to play in the champ. But he'll start and he'll still be 19 this time next season.

I questioned him in the summer and i question him now. These holidays that people put on here him having and going out will not have done him any good.

He could have been so released by barnsley a few times and you make him sound like he had know money. the club offered him the best deal possible and he can't have been that short of money in his Range Rover. He never showed barnsley any respect, his memory cant be the best. when he was 15 he got turned down by clubs including Fulham and Sheffield United. Barnsley offered him a deal which was the first on the step to becoming a likely very rich person and possible millionaire by the time hes 30.

Luke Steele came out last season and said he was telling Jacob that he shouldn't jump at things. He made that mistake and regretted it.

 

turned a few clubs down.
Chelsea and Manchester were rebuffed by the Birmingham number one.

 

Look, I know you are difficult to reason with, but I'll try one more time.

The lad nearly had his career ended at 21. He was offered a better move, to the Prem, on life changing money.

What did you expect him to do?

Sign a new contract for 2 year with us, on a lot less money, and risk never making the big step up? He may have never recovered from his injury, but Norwich were willing to take that risk.

I'd be willing to wager that 99% of us on this forum would have done exactly what Jacob did.

And please shut up about his 'hollidays'. His doctors/surgeon encouraged them, to aid his recovery/rehab.
I can guarantee you that Luke Steele spent more time 'holidaying' last Summer than Jacob did.

YOU (not me) have no idea what deal BFC offered him.

Many people came out suggesting he shouldn't move, last Summer. A lot of those people made the same move.

The lad backed himself. He still does.

He's currently playing at a club in the Playoffs. He's contracted to a Prem club for 3 more years. He's only 22.

Aye, he's made a reight mistake leaving tarn....

My last word on the subject.