Speed Camera Van's

Aye speeding Monday hit & run Wednesday cracking 2 days

 

Sorry but why are you moaning. You know the speed limit and you got caught breaking it. You desreve the fine / points.

 

Once again!!!!

I'm moaning at the sly underhand way they have gone about it by appearing to have a camera hidden in the front of the van.

 

But does it really matter how you were caught? You were speeding - accept it!

 

You've got nothing to complain about

You were speeding and have been fined. Think it's fantastic how people (not getting at you - you haven't moaned!) can slag off anyone else that commits an offence but will always have an excuse if they commit one.

As for Mario saying that it's nothing to do with road safety and just about cashing in - get your head out of the Daily Mail and live in the real world. Speed kills, especially in 30 mph zones.

I'm particularly sensitive about this as speeding is the only offence I've ever been done for (only about 5 times in the last 40 years!) and I'm not happy or proud of it. Takes real will power and restraint to keep to limits sometimes. I've been on one of the speed awareness courses and despite my scepticism it was excellent. The guy really honed in on 30 mph limits as that's where the vast majority of deaths occur. Made me think and try to be more careful.......
.....unfortunately didn't work as I got a ticket driving back from the Man City game on the A62 at 8.15pm in shitty conditions on a four lane road 30 mph zone doing 34 with the camera almost hidden behind another sign outside Jewson's so not even a residential area - robbing bar-stewards!!!

 

Very true, but how is doing a few miles over the speed limit classed as "dangerous driving" and in need of punishment? I agree that speeding CAN be very dangerous indeed but there are lots of things that drivers do that they get away with - I know because I drive thousands of miles every month and I see it every day.

I have been stupid enough to get caught three times in the past year - my heinous crimes were doing 35, 37 and 35 in the same area around High Wycombe but on three different cameras (one of which was a sneakily placed van in a layby just around a corner. I have been a careful and considerate driver for forty years without so much as a parking ticket but since starting my current job two years ago I am at daily risk of prosecutions and accidents. The tally so far is £95 for the speed awareness course, 2 x £60 fines and 2 lots of 3 points on my licence. If I get caught once more I will lose my job because the company insurance will not cover me. And then, of course, one more strike and I lose my licence, with all the inconvenience, expense and stigma that goes with that.

Do I drink and drive? Definitely not. Do I drive recklessly and dangerously? Definitely not. Do I drive selfishly and without due care and attention? Never. I am on the motorways on an almost daily basis and sometimes drive in central London up to 4 or 5 times a week. I enjoy my job, I enjoy driving but I am now paranoid about passing a speed camera to the point of slowing down to about 25 mph in most cases, and that is not easy in a high powered BMW or Merc. Some would say that was dangerous - maybe it is.

The system stinks, but we all know that. It infuriates me to see idiots weaving in and out of traffic on busy dual carriageways like the Westway into London. I silently pray that I will see them upside down a few miles along the road, but that never happens. I am all for punishing bad drivers but the punishment for doing 35mph far outweighs the crime. It's just money making, pure and simple. Safety does not come into it.

 

Re: You've got nothing to complain about

eaststander i have more news for you, cop cars have cameras in the front too.

if you had been caught at 33 you could have appealed as that is the 10% rule.

you can try appealing but i wouldnt bother. You admitted that you slow down when you see or get to a speed camera so that tells me you break the limit and drive at speed.
so you got caught,hopefully its your first time,and lesson learnt.
if i was you i would do the speed awareness course cause the 80 quid you pay for that,is a lot less than the amount your insurance will rise with points on your licence.

 

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Thorncliffe Road. It leads up from Thorncliffe Industrial estate to the Stocksbridge bypass. No houses, only a couple of junctions not a built up area... 30mph zone. That's what gets me it really should be 40 mph. Oh and I haven't been done there !

I would put 20mph zones around schools and possibly inside estates. I'd put broken double red lines (no stopping or unloading) around schools as well to stop parking dangers at school start and finish times.

'ave that !

 

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I got the same doing 34 in 30 last year. Bet it was up past Scorahs chippy heading up towards Monk Bretton?

The van parks or rather hides behind another van that has works markings on (guys van who must live there), so you never really see it. The road is very wide for a 30mph with set back pavements so little chance of anyone stepping out unnoticed. The layout does mean you can easily drift above 30mph without realising it. Mine was a Sunday morning at about 10am.

I took the course which I did learn some stuff, but annoyed that on the very very few occasions I'd exceed a 30mph, I get stung. Especially when the majority of the time I have speeding drivers up my ars trying to get me to speed up.

 

Re: You've got nothing to complain about

When I worked for BMBC I got flashed driving the lorry by the Camera on Laithes Lane that faces you heading from Carlton to New Lodge.

SYP Sent BMBC a letter saying I'd been doing 35 in a 30 (I thought Laithes Lane was a 40) the only think that happened then was a strongly worded recommendation that advised the driver to adjust their driving habits.

So what's the difference?

 

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Burden of proof.

 

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Police can no longer raise revenue from speed cameras, as the fines now goes to central government. But by providing speed awareness courses, the fees can be spent on these. In the past the police would give you a good talking to and likely let you off with a warning, but the mobile vans which are manned by glorified traffic wardens, now collect the cash to pay for courses.
Bit of a mini-industry putting on these speed awareness courses.

 

Thought I would check out tpuc as suggested

What an absolute load of bilge. Misinformation of the worst kind. No credits on the site for what it's all about either. The guy who set it up (John Harris) is a typical conspiracy nut job with other extreme views. I'd recommend you give it a miss!

 

Im currently exchanging letters with SYP after refusing to fill in a NIP with driver details. they can get fecked
did you know that if just 10% of speeding tickets were fought it would take courts three years to get through them. Dont just bend over and take it fight the feckers all the way

 

i suggest if you read the chronicle look up where the mobile cameras going to be that week and excersise caution.

the one on rotherham road is there alot.

i know someone who got done on lee lane from waket rd to royston,it used to be 60 then straight into a 30 zone,the copper sat there just in the 30 zone and zap.
he was doing 38, so he contested it saying you cant brake from 60-30 and the road should go 60-40-30.

he got a quite apologetic letter back from south yorks police agreeing with him, but he still got fined and points. and was told to take it up with the highways agency.

 

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Of course more deaths occur where more people live. That doesnt mean the roads or speed are dangerous it just means that there are more people to hit. Its a bit like the claim that statistically more accidents occur within 10 minutes drive from your home than further away which they say proves that drivers dont concentrate on roads theyre familiar with. In reality of course youre going to be more likely to have an accident on roads you use a lot than on roads you dont. It makes statistical sense. If i drive on a road 365 times in a year every year for 10 years im obviously more likely to have an accident there (one in 3650 times), if i drive to glasgow and have an accident then it would be 100% of the time wouldnt it

 

People should grow up and be accountable for their actions

 

Don't speed . Simple.

 

what has that got to do with my post where I never mentioned anything about people not being accountable for their actions?

 

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In the real world dangerous drivers slow down for camera's then speed up again, they also drive under the influence of drink or drugs or while texting. If you don't think that speed cameras are not there for revenue then its not me that isn't in the real world. In the real world evidence shows that most responsible drivers slow down for those signs that light up showing your speed (if they're going too fast) because they are reasonable people who don't need to be fined and have points on their license for a slight drift over the speed limit.