Need to reintroduce the dog license asap

another death, another sickening story, how dog owners get away with keeping vile breeds of dogs that are simply not suitable as pets I do not understand. Time to act now.

 

Sorry but it is not the breed that is to blame, it is the owners – there is no such thing as a vile breed in my opinion. There are many decent owners of these breeds of dogs who bring them up properly and they will be just as horrified by this as everybody else. I'm not sure that a licenses will do anything to resolve this as with everything else the responsible law abiding owners will comply with legislation whereas the chavvy owners will ignore it. Until owners are dealt with severely by the law when their dogs attack or kill nothing will change.

 

Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

they've killed someone yet its not the dogs fault, for f.ck,s sake I cannot get my breath. They should be banned completely, all existing dogs of these breeds should be immediately put down for the safety of the public.

 

Re: Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

There's a difference between a spaniel and a pack of muscle with the instinct to kill.

They shouldn't be anywhere near domestic premises. Licence should be £100 per dog, and dogs should only be purchased from licenced breeders. The current set up is dangerous to the public and results in strays. Look at all the animal rescue centres etc.

But we all think we have a 'right' to keep animals as pets.

 

There needs to be an amnesty period

whereby any owner of these dangerous breeds can come forward and have their dog(s) put down after which anyone found owning one should face a massive fine.

 

Re: Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

Agree, a pack of miniature Yorkies would struggle to savage someone to death. When a sufficiently powerful dog reverts to its animal instincts, particularly if it feels its territory or group is being threatened you are in trouble. Only the cops and armed forces should have "attack dogs" like Alsatians and the like in my opinion.

 

You got that bit right. £100 initial licence and £35 annually. If you take on a rescued dog the £100 is wavered, though adoption fees apply.

I'm for responsible cat ownership as well, which means keeping fresh litter trays in or on the owner's property.

 

We had a big debate about this last week.

There is a German Shepherd running around near my house that the police won't do anything about unless it maims someone.
It has ripped open my Jack Russell twice before & the police won't do anything. I pointed out last week to the
police it could have been a child & not a small dog, as it was running around in a public park. Their response was "its dog on dog"
and wouldn't come out, even though the guy was verbally threatening me.

I don't believe in putting down breeds of dog, that is the sort of overreaction that will get us nowhere, but if the government & police don't do
owt then there may be a dead kid in my neighbourhood too.

 

It really is time for a no-nonsense clamp down on responsible dog care and ownership. It's is integral to good citizenship and caring about your community. A licence should be a legally binding document, accompanied by training. 'Trophy' breeds should be discouraged, their power, as we know, can make them extremely dangerous in the wrong hands and so many animals end up unwanted and in care simply because they are not dangerous and do nothing for the ego of their owner. Also, I think you should be 25 before you are allowed a licence and if you have a criminal record you should be excluded. If you seriously and knowingly break the law, you lose your dog.

No I haven't accidentally picked up a copy of the Daily Mail, I'm just sick of innocent animals getting the blame for bad ownership. The owners of the dog who killed the little girl, should be up for manslaughter.

 

Totally agree with that.

 

Oh they will....its called create a problem then offer a solution..

 

No problem with a dog license as a general idea, but frankly the rest of it is uninformed nonsense.

 

Re: Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

Which breeds are you talking about? Or are you spouting *****?

 

Re: Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

What we are now suggesting a Dog Tax???

Surly all this will do is drive the breeding an keeping of such Breeds underground, I have a dog and have done for many many years, always bought them from Kennel Club registered Breeders and have always registered them and had them Chipped. We have always had large dogs but have always spent time raising them and training them well and most importantly having them as part of our family getting used to the youngsters as they have grown up. I do not know the facts of this particular incident but if a pack of dogs have gone wild at the sight of a meat pie then this suggests to me badly trained animals rather than the breed, they could even have been under nourished as well. Dogs soon learn what food is theirs and what isn't, the owners will have probably let the children in the house feed them scraps from the table, then if one piece of food was thrown down for them the instinct is to fight for it because dogs will obviously not share 1 piece of food. These dogs will have also probably have been kept outside in a pen or cages most of the time keeping them away from a family environment which may not have helped

Education is the answer, why someone wants 4-5 dogs in a council house is beyond me. Far too many.

 

Re: Im astonished at how people seek to defend the dogs

FFS its not even worth discussiing this with you. How many people own these breeds and never have any problems but yes you're right its every single dog that is to blame and there should be a mass cull ordered immediately. #clown .

 

Absolutely spot on sir but this kind of common sense is wasted on certain posters on here.

 

no need to have a dog licence at all, HOWEVER

dogs should be only available from licenced breeders. It then should be compulsory to have them chipped and insured, as insurance at least carries a liability/indemnity that would at least pay damages to injured parties. I know this will not bring the young lass back and the level of tragedy is immense. But I do believe that compulsory insurance is a better way. The chipping would be the way to check out that a dog is annually insured. Also prospective owners should be vetted(sorry at a pun) by the breeders/vets/rspca/police, and their premises inspected for suitability. I have 3 dogs, two Pembrokeshire Corgies and a Cairn terrier all are chipped and insured , the cost is in total about £60 per month. that's £360 a year, bigger animals are more to insure. The one regarded as more dangerous could be made to pay even higher premiums.

 

Thing is this gets dragged up every time but as long as there are the breeds out there with real killing potential what can you do?
Now I am a dog lover ( we've got a retriever)but I just don't see how we can go on like this. Yes it might be the owners fault because there are complete morons out there like the pillock I met last week whose dog was hanging on its lead trying to get to mine who said it just wanted to play, which made me feel better because that explained all the slavering and snarling it was doing.
All these ideas are all well and good but they would only work with strict policing because if you brought in compulsory licences the responsible owners who aren't a problem would get one, the feckless wouldn't, so somebody would have to go round confiscating dogs that IMHO would then have to be put down because I can't see how you could totally trust one of any age that has had no real training.
TBH I just don't see why anybody would want something like a mastiff or bull terrier in a domestic situation anyway, yes anydog can do some harm but at least you have a chance of stopping any of the average breeds that lost it.

 

I've met dogs that are aggressive that are much much bigger than a Staffie or even a Rottie yet are not known as a breed to be aggressive - what should happen there then? The Dangerous Dogs Act should be changed to encompass ALL breeds of dog, in fact not just pedigree but x breeds too. It shouldn't be restricted to things happening in a public place and more needs to be done to the owners of these dogs. Regarding size - I own a medium sized breed, much smaller in body than a Staffie but has a bite to match one, if you met an aggressive, nasty one of those you'd have trouble getting it off you, same as if a Jack Russell got hold of a baby, they can do damage no matter the size.

 

why not just have a licence and insurance for dogs that are on the dangerous dogs act?,