easter-does anybody actually still believe in religion

what a load of boll ox

 

Only if it means more days off work to go to the pub

 

I Believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (hidebehindsofa)
I've seen 'The Greatest Story Ever Told' no one can deny that surely

 

Thats the one I told the missus when I got in late

 

Sadly yes; millions of deluded people.

 

If your not interested in religion, why does it bother you?

It obviously is part of a lot of people's lives, so let em get on with it.

May come as a surprise, but there's plenty who don't understand why people go to watch grown men kick a bag of wind around a pitch.


Each to their own.

 

Standing room only in Church yesterday, I took 30 kids in children's liturgy.
I have an IQ over 120, a degree, I believe in evolution, scientific methods for exploring how our world works, and theology for understanding how to live a good life. If people want to call me "deluded" that's up to them, it doesn't make ME look stupid.

 

That's good English tomthum

 

its amazing how the human eye and mind scan text and use suggestion

to finish things off.

I read that as easter - does anyone still believe in relegation.

lol

Need to get that positive thinking back.

 

Religion to me should be a personal preference, unfortunately too many people like to think differently and try to impose their beliefs on others. The result of this is at times ends in trouble and wars.

I personally am a disbeliever and do not see the attraction in the fairy tale that is the bible, but I do not go about trying to impose my beliefs on others. I am open to be convinced but this as yet has never happened. Each to their own I say.

My only religion is Dundee United. Safer that way!

 

Good post tomfun.

We are all what we are because our parents decided when we were children as to what religion we should follow.

I'm protestant, Church of Scotland because my parents imposed that upon me not truely knowing where my true beliefs lay.

This cannot be right. Maybe leaving such decisions until the individual is old enough to make his own should be the way to go.

 

Wakeyred, what's your opinion on Richard Dawkins? I think he's a brilliant thinker and I tend to agree with him when he asserts that God doesn't exist. However I found the way that he went after some more moderate believers in his Root of All Evil documentary quite disturbing.

 

I never quite understand these kind of comments, in case you hadn't notice society without belief in God has been tried on numerous occasions, and hasn't tended to work out too well. The savagery of triumphan Jacobinism, the clinical heartlessness of classical socialist eugenics, the Nazi movement, Stalinism - all the grand utopian projects of the modern age that have directly or indirectly spilled such oceans of human blood - are no less result of the Enlightenment myth of liberation than are the liberal democratic state or the vulgarity of late capitalist consumerism or the pettiness of bourgois individualism. The most pitilessly and self-righteously violent regimes of modern history have been those that have most explicitly cast off the Christian vision of reality and sought to replace it with a more "human" set of values.

As for Baptism, it would be a mistake to imagine that someone can only freely choose it if they are free from an external influences, and so that we must just let children grow and decide for themselves. We are formed for freedom in our families and by education. Our parents need to take all sorts of decisions for and about their children so that we grow into free human beings. They teach us to speak their own language, push us to walk, and slowly introduce us into a way of life which is that of a free grown up. If they left their children entirely free to choose hot to live and what to do, then we would never grow up humanly at all but become like feral animals. Likewise it makes sense for parents to bring their children to baptism so that they may grow up and be truly free to choose whether to embrace God or not.

 

Richard Dawkins should stick to science, which he is very good at. When he strays into philosophy and theology he just comes across as an intolerant ignoramus. When he claims, for instance, that "natural selection is the ultimate explanation for our existence" in his book he just reveals he doesn't understand the words he is using. The question of existence does not concern how it is that the present arrangements of the world came about, from causes already internal to the world, but how it is that anything can exist at all.

 

OK Wakey I can see where you are coming from as in parental guidance but surely being babtised or not would not make any difference to the behaviour of the individual.
On another point. The church its self and especially the Catholic church is not as squeeky clean as we would like it to be. I point you to the child sex scandals lately involving priests and the Pope refusing to acknowledge it happening. Not Good!