Nudgers opinion of .............. Margaret Thatcher

Every point you make contradicts the previous one.

 

What job do you think my dad had? .................you were a MINOR.............not a MINER..........

Basically if you wernt involved then you can try to understand, but you will not be able to fully understand

You had parents or a guardian at the time that looked after you..............us that went on strike didn't

 

UK imported 40 m tonnes of coal last year
Equivalent to 40 deep mines x 500 jobs at each
Power generation for last year
50% coal
30% gas
20% other

We have 200 years of coal at 50 m tonnes yr

Economics of the madhouse or a dictator or both

 

..........his dad had a family ????????

Just a reminder here

A miner with a family got benefits during the strike.......it was very little but it was something

A guy living on his own, like me, got nothing..............believe me when I say this, bus fares throughout South Yorkshire at that time was 10p..............there were long periods during the strike when I couldnt afford to catch a bus.

After the strike I went to the Halifax Building Society to discuss my mortgage
I offered to extend the period of payments..............the Halifax refused and ordered me to pay the money I owed in the coming 12 months i.e. double the mortgage for a year (now adays you would just change mortgage provider, but it didnt happen like that back then)

So I not only had no money for a year on strike.........the following year I also had very little money

 

You are walking on very thin ice.

 

In what way did she make it a better country?

1 Destroyed communities
2 Made fat-cat bankers and city dealers richer at the expense of the vast majority of the population
3 Paved the way for the current financial crisis where the ordinary people are bailing out the above fat-cat bankers and dealers
4 Provoked a war against a poor third-world country by removing the only Navy ship patrolling the Falklands and gave the order to sink a ship sailing away from the area resulting in unnecessary huge loss of life
5 Divided the country even more than it ever had been

For point 4 she should have been charged with war crimes, but instead was re-elected - she would have been out in 1983 otherwise as one of the most unpopular Prime Ministers ever.

 

Now that the dust's settled, I've thought a lot about Mrs Thatcher and what it is that's so emotive about her. There's no doubt that she was a conviction politician, and I certainly didn't agree with those policies. But when I think about people, or judge other people, i don't think you think primarily about their politics (most of my mates are probably moderate tories, so I'm miles away from them politically), but you more judge them on how they are as a person, as a human being. Thatcher was extremely unusual in that she either couldn't understand, didn't care or even worse took a perverse pleasure in the social consequences of following the economic policy that she undoubtedly believed in, more than any other UK leader. It's pretty clear in the son that she's sired as well that she was a pretty God-awful parent. So as a person, I think she was f*cking horrible; and that's why I shed no tears yesterday. The political disagreement is just an aside.

 

That's exactly it. No much how those who purport to know her try and paint a human side to her, I think she was just without empathy.

 

Also - if she was from such a "humble grocer's daughter" background - can someone explain WTF that accent was?

 

Changed herself to 'get on' - woman in a man's world and all that.

It's a bit like me Mam's telephone voice. Weird.

 

Quality post

From a quality poster.
Narthen.

 

Fully agree. The BBC love in that was broadcast about her last week contained a line from Carol (who seems slightly simple) where she was trying to prove how focussed her Mother was and in doing so it highlighted the complete lask of attention those kids must have had from her. The example given was about her and Mark watching TV and Craol suddenly becoming aware that the TV might be too loud for Mother who was working in the same room. She said that she asked Mother several times about the TV Volume and had to go to her to get a response....willful neglect at best.

 

The accent that we became accustomed to was actually toned down. Publicists spent years working with her to moderate her voice and make it more of the people.

Check this out from 1960. She speaks as though she's royalty. Which, as you point out, is absolutely bizarre for a humble grocer's daughter.

[video=youtube;yc3hm7dhEQo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc3hm7dhEQo[/video]

 

Re: Quality post

You'll make me blush... I'm better when i'm talking about sausages mind.

 

Re: Quality post

Sausages are certainly my level. I selected my favourite of tomato sausages. As far as I'm concerned, they also count towards my five a day!

 

That is one of the most offensive and downright ****tish comment I have ever read on here.

I remember being 6 year old (YES SIX), and wondering why my mother burst into tears when I simply asked for a couple of pennies to buy some sweets from the top of the road.

At the time, she had a choice. Toilet roll or sweets for me. My mother being who she is, decided I as a SIX year old came first. DUly gave me the change I had in her purse.

Me not knowing what the **** was going on in the country tootled off to the shop. I don't particularly remember this, but seeing my mother in tears must have hurt. Because I didn't come home with sweets. I came home with the bog roll.

Then their was the years of struggle afterwards, my dad, tried everything just to put food on the table. It was a struggle. To which I had to do without on many occassions whilst other people I knew weren't affected as much getting their presents for christmas.

It took my dad nearly 10/15 years to finally get back on his feet (many attempt at self employment).

And guess what, he is doing very well now doing the exact same job he did down the pit. Although the old knacker should retire now but he won't. He is still mentally scarred of being in debt and struggling (my Opinion this), in that he is working himself into an early grave because he wants to ensure my mother (and the rest of us) can get as much of what he can leave behind. I personnally would just rather have my dad.

Everything we touch today is Thatcher built.

It sickens me now, and will till I die as a result of the things she did to my family and my community.

To say that we weren't part of it is absolute ****ing ********.

I WAS, STILL AM AND WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF THAT BITCHES LEGACY.

Good ****ing ridance to her, I hope she rots.

Rant ****ing over

 

Fantastic post.