Don Rowing - 'Relegation will cost us £6 million' - todays Yorkshire Post

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  1. S.M.

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    is it my imagination or has that figure doubled since December?

    BARNSLEY general manager Don Rowing has warned that the club will have to make some big cost-cutting decisions if the spectre of Championship relegation turns into reality.

    The Reds’ seven-season status in the second-tier of English football is very much on the line with the Oakwell outfit currently second-from-bottom with two games to go, starting with a huge derby at home to promotion-chasing Hull City on Saturday.

    If Dave Flitcroft’s side lose to the Tigers and relegation rivals Wolverhampton Wanderers and Peterborough United both win – and Huddersfield Town draw – they will be all but consigned to League One football next term, barring a miraculous final-day chain of events on May 4.

    While everyone associated with the club remains hopeful that the Reds can still stave off the drop, Oakwell bosses are making contingency plans in the event of relegation, which Rowing insists will represent a huge financial blow and cost them million of pounds in lost revenue.

    Reds owner Patrick Cryne has made no secret of his desire to sell up, with the club having effectively been on the market for the past 12 months or so.

    But Rowing acknowledges that dropping down to League One would make the job of attracting prospective investors that bit harder and could deter potential bidders.

    On the financial impact of relegation, Rowing told the Yorkshire Post: “If we stay up, it will be a different scenario than if we go down. If we go down, there are going to be some very big decisions that have got to be made and we will be big enough to take them.

    “We believe that with the loss of gates and solidarity monies and such that we will lose between five and six million of our turnover.

    “It would certainly be more attractive to any potential buyer if we were in the Championship. But at the moment, we have no-one who is wanting to have a go.

    “We are not giving in, but you have to look at the worst scenario. With two games to play, we will be giving our upmost and two wins and we are safe, it’s as simple as that. We have been here before and are used to fighting against the odds and will continue to do so until the last ball is kicked.”

    Meanwhile, Rowing has revealed that the dual decision by South Yorkshire Police to reject a Sky TV request to move Saturday’s kick-off to 5.20pm – and then turn down Hull’s request for an additional 1,500 tickets – will cost the club over £100,000 in lost revenue.

    Rowing says the Reds are disappointed at both decisions after being happy to approve the extra visiting allocation after Hull’s initial 5,000 tickets in the North Strand sold out earlier this week.

    But in both instances, the police blocked the move on safety grounds.

    Specifically on the request for extra tickets for City fans at the all-ticket match, police ruled that it would be unsafe to house away supporters in two sides of the ground, with the half of the West Stand designated for home fans.

    With Oakwell housing 6,500 visiting contingents on several occasions over recent years, Rowing is adamant that policing an extra amount of away fans should not have been a problem.

    Rowing added: “We do our best to try and grow the local economy and seem to get obstacles from people and it is a hard pill to swallow. What is the point in having a game if we can’t have the spectators to come and watch it?

    “No-one should dictate to the police in terms of public order. The police should eradicate any disagreements with travelling fans, it should be as easy as that. They have the equipment and manpower. We offered to pay them more and give more stewards and offered to make the game all-ticket.

    “I am very disappointed that they have taken the easy option. For me, they dwell too much on history than on what is happening this particular season.

    “We have had Sunderland, Newcastle, Wolves, Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday here and they have all taken parts of the West Stand as well as the North Stand and we have had no problems.

    “It seems to be Hull carry a more dangerous warning sign than the others, I don’t know why.

    “I think there was an altercation in the town a few years ago, but at the ground, we have never had any problems. So that is probably what the public order thing we are taking about. But at the end of the day, the law is the law and if people break it, they should be dealt with accordingly and mete out the punishments.

    “We, as a football club, back all the police’s actions in terms of banning orders. If people want to misbehave, then the police ought to come down hard on them and we will ban them from future games.”

    Temporary Superintendent Scott Green, match commander for Saturday’s game, said: “The force (South Yorkshire Police) and I also appreciate the importance of this fixture to both sets of fans, particularly at such a crucial time of the season for both clubs.

    “Fixtures of this importance are always passionate affairs, but we have seen how, at times, this passion can spill over into disorder.

    “In planning for this fixture, South Yorkshire Police has worked closely with Barnsley Football Club to ensure both sets of supporters are kept safe.

    “The entirety of the North Stand will be dedicated to travelling Hull City fans. The only additional capacity would be in the stadium’s West Stand and upon assessment, it would be unsafe to have Hull City fans on two sides of the ground.”
     
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    I was under the impression the cost of relegation was nearer the £3m mark, and that the club were holding off investing in the squad this term in case of relegation. In which case, the £3m received for John Stones would then be used to offset the losses.
     
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    Not quite. At the meeting the other night Don reckoned probably somewhere between £4 and £5 million in lost revenue when you take into account the loss of TV revenue /away support/commercial opportunities. Then its a question of what income we lose in terms of home support so who's to say that wont' push over the £5m mark?

    As for the Stones money I believe the club will have made a reasonable profit this season but there are other expenses that we don't see that will have had an effect on that e.g. paying off £4k a week to Mido + his agents fee of £40K. Agents fee Keith paid for Silva (£70k) etc etc
     
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    Which is what was said at a previous meeting

    I expect Super Tyke to be all over this.
     
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    its all Keith Hills fault.
     
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    £6m seems about right to me.

    It also cost Huddersfield £6m to get out of that league, so to go down and come back up can cost £12m.

    Anyone who has ever thought it's better to go down, 'regroup' and come back up is daft.
     
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    That tells you why the police won't let them bring more.
    If they secure promotion at the end of the match & run on the pitch & its our last home game & possibly could mean we are down - could kick off big time.
     
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    Wouldn't that have come from the season's operational budget, set before the sale of John Stones?

    Looks like SYP have cost us the funds to cover those two bills mentioned.
     
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    I was just thinking the same. It's our last home game and there will be the traditional pitch invasion by young Barnsley fans. If they were to pass the halfway line and goad the Hull fans, it could be a serious problem. Likewise, if Hull win and are promoted they will be in party mood and are likely to invade the pitch. I suppose SYP are looking to contain that to one end.

    It's still a bugger losing the Sky coverage. That would have kept the ticketless Hull fans in their pubs and the late kick off would make them less likely to hang around Barnsley at full time?
     
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    The same agent as he had?
     
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    Have to agree. Shame Sky couldn't have shown it earlier - but they are too big for that I suppose..
     
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    You reap what you sow...
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the latest accounts published at companies house show the turnover for the last financial year to be just over £8 million. If we lose £6 million of that, three quarters, then how are we going to survive? We'll have to get rid of the entire squad and play the kids.
     
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    The point I'm making we seem to have a knack on here of saying we got £3m for stones + £750K for the cup run and therefore we will have £3.75m for next season as we havent bought any players. It's not that simple, there are plenty of costs that we dont get to see. What percentage of the loan players came out of the season budget vs money from the cup run/stones for instance.
     
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    Its basically Don warning us

    that if we go down there will be a fire sale and we will be selling everyone that we get an offer for and releasing everyone out of contract.

    Relegation, quite clearly, will mean we have to start again.
     
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    Safety/security at football seems paramount to SY Police when it suits.

    Temporary Superintendent Scott Green, match commander for Saturday’s game, said: “The force (South Yorkshire Police) and I also appreciate the importance of this fixture to both sets of fans, particularly at such a crucial time of the season for both clubs.

    “Fixtures of this importance are always passionate affairs, but we have seen how, at times, this passion can spill over into disorder.

    “In planning for this fixture, South Yorkshire Police has worked closely with Barnsley Football Club to ensure both sets of supporters are kept safe.

    “The entirety of the North Stand will be dedicated to travelling Hull City fans. The only additional capacity would be in the stadium’s West Stand and upon assessment, it would be unsafe to have Hull City fans on two sides of the ground.”[/QUOTE]

    Leppings Lane anyone, and I don't mean the 96 Liverpool fans (RIP), the **** that happened on there this season (and other seasons for that matter) Very few police around as Wednesday thugs approached/ attacked/spat on 'ordinary' Reds fans as they walked to their coaches. Only when a couple of these louts got the come-uppence they deserved was there any signs of the police.
     
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    I thought the North Stand held around 6500, in which case ....

    are there going to be 1500-ish empty seats there as well as an empty 1500-ish West Stand seats if, as it says in that article, Hull have sold their allocation of 5000.
    I may be a bit dim, according to my wife, but doesn't that mean a total of 3000 empties?
    Don't you just love the police involvement in match day affairs.
    Anyway, on ordinary match days there are never any police there, so why do they have to come out on the big occasion and f*ck things up?
     
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    Quite. Its going to be extremely tough. Tough decisions will have to be made and it will be more important than ever to support the club financially by purchasing a season ticket etc.
     
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    If we stop up Keith will have the same budget.

    Oh, err no we actually need the Butterfield money for that.

    Has Craig Davies got a sell on clause ?

    Not fit for purpose in my opinion, any of em at the top.
     
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    Keith Hill = Expensive mistake. Don and the board have to live with that one.
     

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