Right behind you- showed a lack of character on being keen to jump ship as soon as he'd had half a good season of form- been injured for almost a year then hasn't showed anywhere near what he had before. IMO if he was ever going to get his form back it would be back at Oakwell but he can jog on if he thinks we're going to get him match fit then send him back to Norwich again. Terrible idea to loan.. Stones maybe and with the increase in Ferguson retirement rumours alongside Everton calling an emergency meeting for if Moyes goes to Old Trafford at the end of the season maybe Stones will be surplus to the new manager's plans..
He's played 17 games in the last year and a half with no goals and as I understand it no assists.. I really take exception to the idea that you'd take that over Mellis who has been an incredible creative force for our team coming up with some important goals from midfield and excellent passing play, you're delusional.
Don't recall a single game that he's had more of an impact than Butterfield in those months up to the Leeds game. Good player, I think Butterfield is better.
No need to fret, pal. More chance of Dave Regis re-signing. Did Stones show a lack of character, too? I mean, Butterfield played 100 games for the club, then left for a lucrative deal and the Premier League. Stones played 20 odd games (some good, some bad) and left for a lucrative deal and the Premier League. Good luck to the pair of them. But like them, I've moved on.
Theres a difference between Everton and Norwich you're missing there.. Also do you not remember Butterfield before his good half season? He was so unremarkable as a fringe player.
Did more in those 3 months than Mellis has all season, not seen any Prem clubs sniffing round him or any U21 call ups for him... I'd say it takes more bottle to prove yourself in the Prem after inuury than staying where it's simple and comfortable.
Butterfield probably was better at the time he was playing really well! But to take him back now and say you'd have him over mellis is crazy! He's been out on loan to 2 championship sides and hasn't done anything. So to take a gamble on him is something barnsley couldn't do! Even if it was on loan it would still cost us a lot of money as his wages will probably gone way over 10k when he signed for Norwich! And correct me if I'm wrong but did mellis turn out to be out top goalscorer in the league!?
It helps to know what you're talking about I feel. And in this one case, I know more than most. And with that I'll bid you a goodnight, pal.
He did in my opinion. Put in one of his best performances in days before he moved. I've said this before but i'll say it again, Jacob messed the club around. The club offered him a deal that was in his words 4 or 5 times better than his current deal and he waited and waited to see what was offered. Stones didn't mess the club around. He was wanted and made the move in the day and the club got good money for him. He was offered a contract in the Autumn and signed it which helped the club big time. Stones went to Everton Football club, that's a big deal for most players. He went to a club with international players everywhere. Phil neville jagielka and baines three current or former international defenders. you keep putting that he left for a good deal in the prem. people aren't annoyed by that. It's the way he left. he was rejected at Manchester united and then at Fulham and Sheffield united i think around 16. Had problems off the pitch and then ditched the club ASAP.
I get what you are saying. In short Stones signing a new contract with us was never going to stop him leaving for a bigger club but gave us the security of making sure we got a decent fee for him as thanks for all the years put into his developement. Buttercup on the otherhand didn't do the same to repay faith for standing by him when no other club wanted him, making him club captain, standing by him through his driving ban etc. Basically he could have signed a new contract to make sure we got a decent fee and still moved on anyway but for much more money. That way both of us would have come out of the deal good.
I dont see what the obsession is with people wanting us to bring former players back to the club. Time to move on im afraid. Both were good players for us, both would have benefitted from staying with us, both left. I can't see what more Butterfield can offer that Etuhu and Mellis don't when they're on their day. Stones was a phenomenal young talent, but I think if we're going to play with wing backs, id prefer someone who can make that position their own, as decent players in that particular position are at a premium, not someone who's only in it for a short stint.
I don't know about that - Butterfield was such a great threat in and around the box in that last season. Kelvin and Mellis have been brilliant, as have Perkins and Dawson, but Butterfield has more quality than all of them (barring maybe Mellis). If there was any chance I'd love us to take him back.
