When a country goes marauding into Iraq and Afghanistan

and supports a foreign policy of attempting to 'Westernise' other countries and peoples who don't want it or need it (only the oil rich ones mind), whilst at the same time operating an open door policy of immigration - even sending 'search parties' out (Peter Mandelson) and running down border controls, I wonder what the result will be ?

There's another bloke with the blood of that murdered soldier on his hands - Tony Blair.

 

An alternative way of looking at it:

its a stabbing in London.

 

Re: An alternative way of looking at it:

Butchery more like.

Listened to an (abridged) rant from one of them - whether he's a devout Muslim or nutjack, our foreign policy of recent times is a factor.

Never mind, the EDL pitched up last night to honour the dead soldier's memory and that.

 

The foreign policy argument doesn’t hold any water as an reason for brutality like this and nobody tries to Westernise any country. These people are radicalised by hate, nothing more and nothing less, its nothing to do with foreign policy, that is used as a feeble excuse by these nutters. The people who do this support a regime that treat women like they're still in the middle ages, they stone women and girls to death for being raped, they shoot a school girl in the head for wanting an education, they behead people and execute people for nothing other than holding a different views, They want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, they want to change our way of life and would have us all living under Sharia law if they could. One thing is for certain and that is we change absolutely nothing in response to these murdering cretins. I find it amazing that people look for an excuse for these people and their warped, barbaric ideologies.

 

Re: An alternative way of looking at it:

It's a stabbing by a pair of mentalists.

 

I'm not excusing anything - what I'm saying is the evil of some individuals notwithstanding, the issue of terrorist related activity is linked to what we do on the world stage.

 

Agreed. There is an impact notwithstanding the presence of lunatics

 

Summed up lovely mate

 

I don't think we've ever retaliated, we've always been retaliated against.

 

The Iraqi and Afghanistani Wars were retaliation for 9/11. Not an attack on us as such but we allowed ourselves to get dragged into the wars by Blair and Dubya.

 

But the history from before 9/11 shows that US/Western interference in that region was probably the cause of their hatred.

 

Much better to fund insurgents on the streets of Syria

and let the whole country disintegrate into rubble.

 

People aren't trying to excuse terrorists. There actions are deplorable. But people realise that the only way to stop people becoming terrorists is to understand what lies behind their radicalisation. I would suggest to simply dismiss it as 'radicalised by hate' isn't going to get us very far in doing that.

 

Deleted. On re-reading I suspect I'm being unfair.

 

No white Christian would ever pillock someone for wet hair.

 

But blaming foreign policy won't help much either. There are a lot of Muslim's murdered by Muslims in the name of 'Allah' and 'Saria law' in these countries and these can't be blamed on foregin policy.

 

The worst part of it is that, not being able to see her hair, I can't even retaliate.

 

Pull of her berka, **** like that usually gets laughed off by the face of evil.

 

Is she a nun ?

 

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