England Team in Twelve months time

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  1. RichK

    RichK Well-Known Member

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    Looking at this thread and the possible teams listed makes you realise we still aren't gonna win owt in the next decade or so. Limited footballers who lack technique and creativity.
     
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    It's scary how weak we are at centre back, at one point a few years back we had Sol, Rio, Terry, Carragher, King & Woodgate all battling for places. None of Jagielka, Cahill & Lescott would've won a cap in that era.

    Phil Jones in midfield in a friendly tells you all you need to know about England's ambitions against any half decent national sides, 10 men behind the ball & hope for a winner on the counter attack.
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    How does it Django. He plays in there well. He's decent on the ball and does get forward.
    He's played in midfield for Manchester united too. I like him in there. Every team at the top level with three in the centre have a player like him in there.
     
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    If glen johnson or james milner are near the first eleven in 12 months time well be lucky to get near the quarters. Fkin hell they arent footballers.

    The team needs drastic change, we cant rely on rooney being quality or someone else producing one of strikes, playing some consistent deceint football would be a start. Looking to be solid at the back is all well and good, but were dogshit at pens so it kind of makes no sense.
     
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    The difference is he's a versatile player who can do an ok job in there when needed by his club who have a limited squad of players to choose from.

    He's not a natural midfielder as his passing shows & when you're the manager of an international side that's allegedly one of the best in the world with a massive selection pool of players we shouldn't be playing players out of position.

    It just showed that when Roy finally changed the team to how we should've started with our team all in natural positions we started to play decent football & create chances.
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    If Sir Alex trusted him in big games like AWAY in Madrid vs one of the best teams in the world against Alonso and Modric then he should be trusted for England.

    We aren't going to play him in the lesser games but along side wilshere and a OX/ Cleverly/ Gerrard/ Lampard it'll work very well. you could go with Rodwell who will become a very good footballer if he can get playing for Manchester city and when fit he looked good. Huddlestone could also play in there maybe instead of him but if Roy goes for Jones then i'd be happy with that.

    He's not going to go and control a game and be the play maker but he'll keep things together in there.
     
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    Glory
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    Man United!
     
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    Swap Cole for Baines and Johnson for Walker and I'll go for that... and the formation
     
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    Why? Ferguson might be up there with the greatest managers but that doesn't mean everything he does is right.

    We're talking about a man who signed massimo taibi. A man who thinks Tom Cleverley is a footballer. The same bloke who got rid of jaap stam and replaced him with Laurent blanc.

    He got a lot right. A hell of a lot. But he got plenty wrong too.

    Playing Phil jones in central midfield might not have been a blunder but it was hardly a master stroke. Fergie reckons he's left Man U strong, but with scholes retired, Giggs pushing 40, fletcher still shitting blood, Anderson never fit and not that good when he plays anyway, Cleverley average at best and, a man I rate highly but hardly as a world beater, Michael carrick, plus possibly kagawa, I don't see too much strength in central midfield. Phil jones might be necessary - but to me he's a future Man U and England regular at centre back.
     
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    Agreed !
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    He will be a centre back in the future (although a lot including me though Rodwell would end up at centre back by now).

    Come on, Cleverlys a good footballer too.

    go through and look at Manchester uniteds side he's left them in a very good state. Maybe a signing or two a summer and that's it for Moyes for the next 10 years. Maybe a left back if they don't think Butners good enough but that's it. There's a lot of good English players there too. smalling Jones powell Zaha young Cleverly Rooney Welbeck. All got 5/6 seasons in them at the top level at least some of them have 10 plus years and they have the two keanes. Will and Micheal and who knows if they will reach the top level.
     
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    oh and Zaha ... infact change the bloody lot ! :)
     
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    It's a joke aimed at my posting from Bilvy's original post.
     
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    So because SAF get's the odd decision wrong now and again, that means we can't trust his judgement because he MIGHT be wrong again? That doesn't make sense to me.

    I also don't think United are in a bad shape. They won the title comfortably without Anderson, Scholes and Fletcher and Giggs didn't play that often. They may not have as many world class players as they used to but they certainly have a good team.

    However, I do agree that that Jones' future lies at CB. I'm pretty sure he'll become our best central defender for a few years to come. At the moment I don't mind him playing in central midfield though. I think he did a good job against Brazil, looked comfortable on the ball and he gave the ball away less than some of the so called technically better players. When Wilshere is fit I certainly wouldn't pick Jones ahead of him though. If Wilshere can stay fit I think he'll be England's best player for quite a few years.
     
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    No idea. Definitely not at work, though. Honest.
    I'll go for:

    Overpaid shotstopper who flaps at crosses

    Can't believe he gets a game at club level/Turning circle of an aircraft carrier/Loud mouthed racist with positional sense of a bluebottle on speed/Arrogant, overpaid ******

    Speed merchant with ball control of a brick/Telegraphs every pass/Runs around a lot but no end result/Right footed player playing on left

    World class ********/Laughable 'goalscorer' who would struggle to get picked for Northern Ireland

    Subs
    Lots of overpaid, talentless muppets who barely get a game in the Premier League.
     
  17. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    hahahahhaha lol Rolf.

    What are you on about. De Gea does not flap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywby7ee8_z4

    Listen to what Gary Neville says on this link. This is the coming on De Gea.

    And the rest of them you are more wrong about them than David
     
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    I think it was the England team described there hemstichler.
     
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    ---------------------Hart

    ------Jones--------Cahill------Caulker

    Walker-----Gerrard----Wilshere------Baines

    -------Chamberlain------Walcott

    -----------------Rooney
     
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    My point was he shouldn't be in there in a friendly, in a competitive match you might at times need to shut up shop & try & nick it on the counter attack but we shouldn't be playing like that in friendlies. Friendlies should be an opportunity for us to try & play football, we'll learn nothing from sitting back with 10 men behind the ball.

    We should've started with Rodwell or Oxlade Chamberlain in the midfield & Jones should've been at RB, CB or on the bench.

    As soon as Jones was moved to right back & we got on the ball we started to create chances.

    All we did until the Brazil goal was sit back & defend like a conference side at Old Trafford in the cup trying to win a replay.
     

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