Keith Hill..........on Tykesmad...........from animallttle2

I thought Flitcroft made all the signings?

The majority weren't failures. The majority have kept us in this league for two seasons & are now the central points of Flitcroft's squad that everyone is raving about.

Not sure where you can get waste of money from considering he's brought in around a million quid from two of his free transfers.

 

Craig Davies was signed on a pre contract in January before Hill took over don't forget. The way I see it is he managed to get half a million pounds for a striker who was top scorer in the championship. Was it 25 goals?

 

Re: Keith Hill describes preseason at Rochdale

You are Keef Hill

 

Thas lucky the STFU buttons brok. Or I'd break it on your posts.

 

92nd out of 92 clubs points per game in 2012. That's what Keith Hill acheived at BFC. Defend that if u can!

 

Come on the Nudger enlighten us as to how you know they were totally down to Hill; stop glossing over the question just because you don't have an answer.

 

In fact scrap that I can't really remember.

 

Don't give a f.ck what anyone sez he's my favourite manager and always will be.

 

Young Nudger is right about one thing: When Keith Hill was our manager he was responsible for our signings. I have no doubt David Flitcroft made recommendations and I have no doubt Keith listened to him, he trusted him and they were best mates, but Keith had the final say. Keith would also have had recommendations from scouts and agents and other football managers who he formed links with and even our board (who recommended Craig Davies) but it was Keith that made the decisions that matter.

That's how it works at Barnsley, we allow our managers to make the big decisions. Thank god we do, I can't think of anything worse than employing a manager and taking crucial decisions out of his hands. David Flitcroft did a remarkable job last season with another manager's players, so just think how much better he can do when he is allowed to identify and sign players that will fit in to his system.

I don't like Keith Hill, I thought he was a very poor manager, but I don't know how anyone can deny that he made a decent fist of it in the transfer market. He wasn't the genius that Nudger is claiming, but for the little money he had available he did a pretty good job.

But that doesn't mean we should take away our manager's right to sign his own players. For a start, Flitcroft may prove to be even better in the transfer market than Hill was, his signings are certainly looking good so far. Also, I have no doubt that Flitcroft would resign should we try to bring in anyone to oversee player recruitment, which would completely undermine him and show we had no trust in his ability, while Keith wouldn't return here in a million years. And then there's the fact that the vast majority in Barnsley don't want Keith anywhere near the town, never mind the football club. But the biggest argument against this is that if you employ a manager then you let him manage and one of the biggest decisions a manager ever makes is player recruitment. Let's not take that away from the brightest young manager we've had since Danny Wilson. Not that the club would ever dream of doing so.

 

He failed at Oakwell eventually, but not without getting a lot of things right (that folk choose to ignore or now credit Flicker with).

He won't be the last to fail as our manager, and I'm still not buying the notion that he was worse than Spackman/Davey et al. If he'd had their budgets he wouldn't have failed.


I'll be watching (at times, in the flesh) Rochdale with interest this season, because lovely person or not, I still think Keith is a decent manager.

 

I think he took us over at a **** time both financially and strategically.

His 'failure' and constant bairning in one way led to the massive changes we've seen off the field this pre season.

I still think back to Michael f.cking Brown crippling Butterfield and think what might have been.

 

I know what would have been - a £2.5m transfer to a club in black and white now run by a director of football...

Small margins etc.


But Keith being a lovely person was his downfall.


If anybody has Player, go and find the pre-Blackburn match press conference (with just him and Mark Stokes). He suddenly asks for support and bigs up the fanbase.

Actually mentions 'support' about 100 times.

Too late by then, and looked forced/desperate.


Still think he selected the side he did that day in the hope of getting the boot. Either that, or he was mental.

 

"He failed at Oakwell eventually, but not without getting a lot of things right (that folk choose to ignore or now credit Flicker with)."

Foundations

 

Layering.

 

He lost the plot. But I think that was a combination of frustration & him being a bit of a *****.

He wanted the support of the board. He only got it in October when he was given enough rope and was allowed to bring in them loan players.

His mate Flitcroft is now (deservedly) reaping the rewards of their hard work over two years.

 

I wouldn't let that man direct traffic around Oakwell, Director of football. lol.:nails:

 

I still can't believe people are defending the fu.cking clown.

You couldn't pay me TO watch 1 of his teams