Will England regret not forcing the 'follow on'?

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    #1 Tekkytyke, Jul 19, 2013
    In spite of a supposedly benign wicket they appear to be imploding at the crease like the Aussies
     
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    #2 Bostonwayne, Jul 19, 2013
    No chance 260 in front now if they are all out for only 100 more that will be a 360 run lead. Australia will be lucky to get 150
     
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    #3 blivy, Jul 19, 2013
    Australia would have been 6 down by now. Difficult pitch that's only going to get worse.
     
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    #4 selby, Jul 19, 2013
    Difficult pitch with the new ball by the look of it we just need to ride it out and get 200 plus tomorrow and it won't see day 5 with root and swann heavily involved on day 4.
     
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    #5 mrx, Jul 19, 2013
    2 poor batting teams - one day cricket T 20 starting to effect test cricket , they cannot defend
     
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    #6 springvale red, Jul 19, 2013
    agree about t20 having an effect, batsman throwing wickets away cheaply chasing runs, wheres the new boycott
     
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    #7 pompey_red, Jul 19, 2013
    Both battling line ups with one exception(Ian bell) are terribly out of form.
     
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    #8 mrx, Jul 19, 2013
    Not out of form , too much one day
    Not enough test cricket
     
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    #9 Mr C, Jul 19, 2013
    There the home team, you'd think they would know the way.
     
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    #10 fired, Jul 19, 2013
    Can't understand why we didnt turn the screw. Had the chance to make them bat on with every chance of another collapse. At best the Aussies would have been tryingto make a bit of a lead. Now we have simply put ourselves under a bit of pressure.
     
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    #11 RichK, Jul 19, 2013
    We should still win from here but I would always force the follow on. An innings defeat would be demoralising for them.
     
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    #12 thomasevans, Jul 19, 2013
    No! The only sensible decision. The pitch is playing well still; the weather is set fair for the next couple of days at least; the bowlers and fielders need a rest from the heat; a lead of anything over 400 will be nigh impossible for the Aussies batting last. I wouldn't have fancied England batting last with, say 150-200 to get on a turning wicket! Right decision every time this one.
     
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    #13 mrx, Jul 19, 2013
    Correct
     
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    #14 Hicksy, Jul 19, 2013
    Had to bat again. It's not gone our way 2nd innings but 180 will be enough to slaughter Australia. Easily done.

    Simply cannot believe how bad Australia are - total shambles
     
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    #15 pompey_red, Jul 19, 2013
    What thomasevans said.
     
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    #16 fired, Jul 19, 2013
    31-3 ... that could have been Australia dead and buried. I'd have made them bat again when losing the ashes was staring them in the face.
     
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    #17 RichK, Jul 19, 2013
    Fair point but Cook, Trott and KP didn't get much rest from the heat, maybe part of why they got out. Should have forced the follow on, rested tonight then come back fresh tomorrow to skittle over what could have been only 6 or 7 crumbling aussie wickets. I honestly don't think we would have needed to bat, 3 batsmen's confidence dented further maybe? An innings win would lift everyone and destroy them.
     
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    #18 Scoff, Jul 19, 2013
    Just a thought I had earlier, but does anyone think that the head of the ECB might have asked Cook not to enforce the follow on. If we bat again, it should at least go into the 4th day, but with a follow on it could be finished within 3. The refunds to paying customers would have cost them a lot of money...
     
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    #19 Durkar Red, Jul 19, 2013
    KP's innings was shocking, he looked like he was trying to get out
     
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    #20 Whitey, Jul 20, 2013
    I'd have put them straight back in.
    And KP is *****.
     
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