Many Positives Out There Yesterday

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    OK, always disappointing to let a lead slip, but..... first goals and first point against a side who fairly recently humiliated us at Oakwell.

    Still without Cranie, Nyatanga (who I think will form a good partnership with M'Voto) and Jennings. Cofie and Noble-Lazarus still to call on. Flicker has flagged up he is on the trail of a striker(s).

    Whatever work you do in pre-season, I don't think you properly hit your stride until 5-6 matches in, and for a lot of the game yesterday we were very good. Keeping the intensity up and letting the opposition continue to worry about you is key, to my way of thinking. Alternatively, close out the game by keeping possession, but either way, know which it is you're doing.

    People have complained about taking off Mellis, but for me, more of a turning point was Perkins having to go off. Perks is a natural leader on the field (important when your keeper is the notional captain) and we've not too many of those, for all there's plenty of effort out there.

    I believe we are not too far off embarking on what will hopefully be a very solid run of form. If we can do that, and achieve a comfortable mid-table position then that will represent real progress.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    I don't think Perkins coming off had as big an impact on the game as taking Mellis off for Digby.
    We were well on top until he was subbed.
     
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    I still think the Mellis sub was the turning point but aside from that I pretty agree with you.
     
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    We'd just conceded.
     
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    agree totally with your post, mellis was a bit ineffective at times but losing perkins was the key to losing our way, overall we battered charlton who were poor but again lack of concentration at the back cost us but a points a point on the board, keep the faith 43 games to we will be okay DONT WORRY BOUT A TING
     
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    We had but we were still on top.
     
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    i was actually fuming with the result yesterday. 2-0 and absolutely cruising. the 'closing the game out' is only coming from one place. at 2-0 up last season, they wanted more. at 2-0 up this season, we shut down. and it cost us. lots of positives, but also lots of areas for concern.

    m'voto could be one of the best centre halves we've had. kelvin proved what a machine he is, and the link play between him and mellis is vital. perkins proved just how much we need him. great to see cog get off the mark, should have brought daggers off earlier. i worry about flicker's obsession with daws, fantastic to see diggers integrate, the 4th offical spent the whole match in their dugout, chatting with chris powell. our scoreboard is w.ank. the end
     
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    M'Voto? Find it embarrassing the praise he gets for heading a f.cking football. Looks dodgy with it at his feet and seems to lose position all the time.

    He could be good, lots of time left and all the attributes but come on.

    Kelvin did ok when he came on, ran out of steam and when he didn't have Perkins alongside him he looked lost when asked to do something wit the ball.

    Digby was poor when he came on.

    Dagnall looked dangerous and was running them all over, his closing down helped us contain 'em, no surprise that we he came off we struggled to create anything.
     
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    M`voto - potential.

    Kelvin/Perks you got that reight.
     
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    so basically you disagree with me completely then :)
     
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    That would have been a more succinct way to put it mate.
     
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    Even if Dagnall looked dangerous, which he didnt with the chances he spurned, he needs to be dangerous and actually score. Just closing down and running about is not enough from him.
     
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    ha ha. fine with that. game of opinions etc..
     
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    Knocking Etuhu for the lack of a decent midfielder at the side of him ? First game back from injury and still looked totally at home.

    Dawson again was awful imho. Lost his drive and ability from last season. Looks out of his depth at the minute. Perkins was growing into the game when he got injured.
     
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    Not knocking him at all. My point was that when we needed some attacking impetus in the middle he looked lost which is understandable considering his job is to block, stop and then pass to someone else.

    I thought he did well and understandably ran out of steam considering he's not match fit.
     
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    Don't understand that - He looked lost by not doing what you reckon he can't do anyway ?

    What attacking impetus did Dawson offer ? Other than a decent back pass to their keeper and ending at least 2 of our attacks 2nd half with p-poor final balls. Gunna stop with this cos it's too soon to be slating folk, but Flicker either needs to play Dawson OR Perkins. At the minute it'd be Perkins for me.

    Bollock dropped by Flitcroft trying to be smart and 'shut the game' out. It absolutely put us on the back foot and we couldn't find new momentum.
     
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    Agree with Perkins or Dawson.

    But I still think Dawson is being hard done by the majority on here.
     
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    Could apply that to Wiseman, M'voto, Kennedy, Perkins, Dagnall, Mellis, Steele at various times. It's always black and white.
     
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    Agreed.

    I thought he worked really hard, did lots of dirty work that he's in the team to do. What I find interesting is that we rave about Kelvin and ignore what he's not in the side to do then complain about Dawson for not offering pace and creativity.
     

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