Do we not put a player on the post for corners anymore?

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  1. Loko the Tyke

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    Maybe I'm being old school, but if Perkins was on the post we walk away with a point today.
     
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    I know for a fact, I'm old school.......and Perkins has a tendency to switch off during games.

    It's no good running around like a mad blond bint and then deciding to take a "minute or so" rest.........personally, I think Perkins is nowhere near as good as folk make out?
     
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    Not sure what he does during the game is relevant to this particular stage of the game though. Not sure I agree or disagree on that.

    You don't switch off by not being on the post for a corner, it usually means it isn't in the brief to do that.
     
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    I would need to analyse the set piece before deciding.

    What I know for sure, is that Perkins has been very good for BFC, but he needs to stop waving his arms around, focus on his game and keep attentive for 90 mins (watch Hudds game, he switched off for their goal).
     
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    Does any team anymore? Doesn't seem to be something teams do in games these days - we had it hammered into at school - full backs get the posts and stay there until ball was clear
     
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    We don't mark anyone at set pieces anyway so what's the point of a man on the post.
     
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    There are many things that aren't done in football any more that we used to do. Often we just did tham because that is what was always done, eg standing on the post at corners. I'm afraid this is a case where we are showing our age and that we haven't moved with the times. Everything in professional football is monitored, mapped and statistics are available. Statistics show that by keeping players on the posts at corners you would potentially stop something like two goals per season. However, it also takes two defensive players out of the game for that set piece, so more goals are likely to be conceded in the long run.

    It's true to say that far less goals are scored from corners nowadays and it's also true to say that far more corners are cleared by the man on the edge of the six yard box. Again, statistics show that by having a player in this position you will cut out over half of the corners without the ball reaching the danger area. We never had players in that position back in the day.

    Coaches study everything and they know what they are doing with positioning for set pieces and this is based on the stats available and are not based on 'well this is what we have always done'. I must admit, this is not something I had thought about until I read a player discussing it in a book (can't remember who, but it may have been that secret footballer book). Whoever it was said that this was just the tip of the iceberg when to comes down to how little the man in the stands understands the finer aspects of football tactics. Fans base their opinions of what players should do on what they've seen, whilst coaches and players base their play on what they've studied. It made me realise that fans don't always know what we're talking about when I read it anyway!
     
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    Or that a simple game has been complicated by people wishing to appear intelligent.
     
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    People over thinking a very simple game - forget statistics and do the basics well.
     
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    Never mind the posts, just put all 10 outfield players on the goal line for set pieces. The goalkeeper can then stand in front of them and "command" his 6 yard box. No-one will ever score against that tactic. If we had used that on Saturday we would have won 2-1.
     
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    What really bugs me, as an ex-centre half and goalkeeper to quite a high standard, is that from set pieces nowadays players seem to concentrate only on stopping the other player getting to the ball, instead of trying to actually win the ball.

    There's so much pushing and shoving, the ref should be giving more free kicks.
     

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