No Point Prolonging The Situation

Flitcroft needs to go today. He did a cracking job against all odds last season but that has now passed. Even experienced managers don't tend to recover from starts like this so someone with ten months experience has no chance.

There's no room for semtiment here. It's all about what's best for the club.

 

Has not one got any balls on here at all?

 

I have see that said a few times and it is a bizarre response. What's balls got to do with it? Ot would be a brave decision to get rid. I don't think he should be sacked today, but if the same mistakes are being made until the end of October it may be time then. We need to see change from our manager, prove he is learning.

 

We are only still 8 games in

Still 114 points to play for.

In the second half of last season we showed what we're capable of and I believe that we can get back to playing like that. The problem is the pressing game we played cannot be held up for a full season, and Flicker knows this. We all knew that last season and it showed even then (i.e. Charlton at home). It's much harder for Flicker this season trying to build his own squad and develop his own managment style that is different from how we played last season, one that can be used over 46 games.

Not long ago people were saying he sould keep the job regardless of wheather we went down or not. 8 games in and people are calling for his head.

Madness.

 

I agree. Today he should be told that he is now moving towards the end game but he is still being given the chance to go back to doing what he did so well last season. If anything he deserves a chance to put this mess right.

 

Have you thought it might be different people who are calling for his head to those who thought he should keep his job regardless? Maybe the people calling for his head have never been convinced by him. Or maybe you have kept a list categorising everyone's opinion?

 

He would be told today to work with the squad he built, and give him until the Wednesday game. If we are not improving by then, that would be the time IMO to think about a change.
Ideally, we would retain him no matter what. But it's hard to defend him right now, never mind at the end of October if results are still embarrassing.
Balls don't come into it. You don't win a medal for putting up with embarrassment. And that is what we are this season.

 

Said the same on Saturday and still feel the same today, we need a change.

What he did last season was a miracle and a great effort all round. But what did he have to lose? He could go out for the win, knowing nothing else would do.
This season he seems to want to do the opposite, defend to protect a loss and hope to hit on the break. Most games this season I have come away and questioned either his tactics, team line up. Looking at him on Saturday he reminded me of Keith Hill - Just stood with arms folded not knowing what to do.

I went to the 'evening with the management' and came away buzzing for this season. In turn it now seems allot said from him was either a smoke screen or utter crap.
He wanted a max 21 players - He now saying he needs more.
He said youngsters would get the chance - None appear to be depsite more recent press articles.
Multi positions would help us - Dont appear to be cause Dawson is a waste of shirt out wide, same with Mellis.
Play from the back - Seems to be more 'hoof' up the flanks to COG, especially when Kennedy on the pitch.

 

Glad it's not just me who's confused by it. We could have 9,000 Buster Gonads in the crowd. Won't make a blind bit of difference.

 

Played 8 and lost 6 (SIX) and in those six we've had a 0-4, a 1-5 both at home and a 2-5. Manager's don't turn situations like this around.

How does he pick the players up for a very difficult trip in five days time? I don't see how he can.

 

This is the key point. I'm pretty sure those who want him sacked never wanted him and either kept quiet when we were doing well or grudingly accepted him.

Sacking a new manager 8 games in is madness. Sacking a manager 8 games in who was incredibley successful last season is insane. Particularly one who you have just entrusted to rebuild the whole infrastructure of the club.

This board was awash at the end of the season with posts saying that when the inevitable bad run came that we shouldn't panic and cut Flicker some slack based on his achievements last year. That was sound advice. He has got a lot of things wrong this season and has deserved the criticism. But he also deserves time and respect.

 

The same way he did after conceding 5 against Bristol City and Man City when a vocal minority started calling for his head?

 

Spot on. I think he has earned the right to be given some time to put things right but he has to sort it out quickly because I believe the board will act sooner rather than later if he doesn't.

 

And six against Charlton and the last minute goal against Derby that could have broken the players.

 

The "if we hadn't lost against X team" and the excuses that come with it, are pointless.
What if Forest had scored 4 more? What if Bournemouth hadn't fluffed two golden one on ones? What if Charlton had got a third goal, Huddersfield an equaliser?
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We are where we are because we deserve to be. We ought to be thankful that Bolton, Wednesday and Yeovil are faring just as bad.
And it's not just results that are causing this shift in backing him. There's a lot going on that we aren't happy about.
I am backing him to come through it, and he knows how to improve the mood amongst us. And recruiting yet more players is not the answer that ANY of us have suggested. And, the players he now no longer trusts, are part of a squad that the majority of us think is good enough. So he's not helping himself.
I hope he wakes the **** up, or else he'll sleepwalk his way into a League Two role. Like his mate did.

 

The best for the club is to get behind the team and manager, not wilt under pressure. Man utd lost 4-1 so all teams need transition. Look at Bolton, spent thousands on new players, Bottom of league. We need time to sort this out and I do not think we are that far away, we showed that at Forest. Need Pederson Nyatanga and another defender

 

The situation was different then - and who were these mythical people calling for his head?

 

I will be surprised if Freedman sees the week out.

 

and there you have the voice of reason in my opinion.

He needs to be given time, as much time as it takes unless we become marooned at the bottom of the league. As it stands we are not.

BTW I'm very disappointed with some of the home performances this season (I don't go away so won't comment) and I'm not a happy clapper, but 8 games, really ?