Surprised by the volume of people now calling for a change in manager

I'm a bit at odds with it all. 2013 was as bigger achievement as anything I've witnessed BFC related. Including promotions and finals and semi finals. That 'special people' moment is imbedded.

Well now it's mainly the same special people who now look wholly inept. Bad individual performances, bad luck (sendings off), good opposition ? Poor selection? Believing our own hype? ...... a combination if you ask me

I'd stick, not bust. Just hope the special ones reappear!

 

Really ? in a 4 4 2 to commit both central midfielders forward at the same time ? IMO only one should go the other is needed to cover an opposition break. The fact that neither did is a problem, but more of a problem is that we played 442. It left their no 23 to dictate the game.

I noticed on MOTD that nearly every side played 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3/ 4-5-1. IMO again if you play 4 4 2 you have to have absolute quality as your central midfielders,

 

I'm not amongst them

The quality of performances this season, as well as the results, has been poor. But this attitude of a bad run automatically meaning the manager has to be sacked is not one I subscribe to. If David Flitcroft is removed, then whoever gets brought in will face exactly the same attitude at some point in the near future. Any improvement in performance & results will immediately be consigned to history and ignored as soon as the team has another bad run. Any credit the new man receives for initially turning things round will be taken away and replaced by snidey, sneering derision. It's simply Groundhog Day.
Also, just because I'm not insisting David Flitcroft must be sacked does not mean I'm not hurting about the season so far, or that I care less about the team and club than those who do believe he should go.

 

How would you know that he hasn't acknowledged his failings after last Saturday unless he comes out and publicly state he was wrong ?

 

There were 4 blokes stood behind them marking one striker. Watford were managing to keep our two strikers at bay with only three defenders.

Maybe you are right and only one of them should have committed, but to see them both stood in the centre circle, really got my goat.

 

Im talking about his new policy of sitting back. Add to that playing players out of position. He doesn't seem willing to revert to what was successful last season.

I'm not saying sack him lets be clear. But if he continues with the negative tactics is only going to go one way.

Now I can only tell if he acknowledges this by changing his tactics. So far it doesn't look like he is going to.

 

I don't see the problem with a manager saying he got it wrong, and CHANGING IT. But he carries on with the same selections, which suggests to me that nezbfc is right, he doesn't acknowledge it.

 

All I can say is I want a team that plays with purpose and tempo. I want our youth team players in the team as soon as possible and I want the players picked to be played in their correct position unless there is an injury crisis. I don't expect us to win every week. I want us to be very hard to beat at home. I want us to go into every match regardless of the opposition trying to win rather than trying not to lose. As a fan I had most of this for 4 months last season. God knows what's happened in the meantime. I don't want the manager sacked however I think that we are at the point where he needs to be aware that current results and performances need to be turned round within a limited timeframe. I'd also quite like a shag of Beyoncé...

 

I think the interview with Flicker at the weekend was very telling and I think this will mark a change in approach, tactics and personnel. I still want Flicker in charge and I think he deserves more time.

 

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That is exactly my thoughts Kev.

I'd love to know if there is an age split on this matter. I'm 54 and I think you are too. We remember a time when social media was a a chat with your mates in the pub. It took a hell of a long time before there was a ground swell of opinion against a manager, maybe a season. Now it can form even during a game and it is not representative. It can be distorted by folk who aren't even watching the team.

I have to agree that there is a general pernicious snidey undercurrent amongst football fans in general, maybe because it's because of the king's ransom the cost of attendance is that gives a perceived sense of entitlement. I can in a way understand that.

As for Groundhog Day and sacking the manager. There's a definition of insanity "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Albert Einstein

 

because there was a man in front of them (no 23) who was picking up every loose ball.

I do agree it pissed me off but more because of the crap set up

 

So I think overall we agree ?

He will have to change or as you quite rightly say it will only go one way.

 

Re: I'm not amongst them

I don't agree how we have changed tactics and are sitting back or with the midfield and full backs he's selecting yet, but I hope he gets time to turn it round . Easy to blame manager, but hardly any are blaming players or questioning there effort at moment, as it seems some arnt busting a gut for the team and manager this year

 

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The attitude of "We don't have time to be patient and tolerant" seems generally to be at all levels of football, sadly. If a new player, or manager, doesn't hit the ground running, then they're immediately written off by some. Simon Davey has been our longest serving manager this Millennium and I don't foresee his time of two years nine months in the manager's job being beaten whilst this attitude and approach persists.

 

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Think you are spot on with that dave, its amazing how the thoughts of a few, effect the thoughts of so many in such a short space of time. I doubt sacking flitcroft would ever have crossed my mind if I wasn't a regular on here and I know many who don't, who would be aghast at what is going off at the moment.

 

I think lol.

Im for giving him time to change. But I posted the other day if he refuses then he will ultimately get what's coming.

I can't remember any barnsley side being able to stand off and sit back and it be successful. Possible exception of when we had the likes of futcher and Fleming.

We are all hurting and to see what was so successful last year being completely abandoned is just baffling

 

Not heard much off the players on how they are trying to put things right on the pitch , even with the new tactics and team flickers picking , we shouldn't be getting beat so easily . Don't know if the team spirit is as good as last year when players , manager were fighting for every ball