Sol Campbell Saying Football Is Racist

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ll-says-racism-may-force-him-to-leave-Britain

He will have a point with some clubs. I don't think it's a coincidence lots of average white guys get manager/coaching jobs. Then you have top class former black players like Sol, Brian Deane, Andy Cole etc who don't get a sniff of a chance to manage in the football league.

 

It's a load of rubbish.

It's also no coincidence that there are a lot more white player/people in the United Kingdom meaning they have more chance of getting an interview.

Sick of Sol Campbell, always plays the victim.

 

See ya later Sol........go and do some more moaning in another country.

Every time I read a media article relating to Sol, bet your bottom dollar he'll have something to complain about.

 

Is that true? Are you saying the number of black coaches/managers is reflective of the number of black players in the game?

 

Hmmm

Between 20 and 25% of professional footballers in England are black. So between a fifth and a quarter. The vast majority of football mangers progress from these players. That's where most managers are sourced from, ex-professional players. So, all things being equal, you'd expect the number of black managers to be between 20 and 25%, give or take, statistics are never that cosy. The above article says there are currently 4 black managers in the English game. I don't know if that's accurate, if any anyone can correct those figures I'll use their's instead, but if it is just 4 that's just 4.3%.

Does that seem low to you? It does to me. Is it so low because of racism? I don't know, I'm more than willing to listen to any other suggestions that can explain the figures.

The following article written in 2009 claims there have only ever been 17 black managers in the history of English professional football. Again, I don't know the accuracy of this and there's probably been a couple more since then, but it does seem really low to me. Maybe I'm missing something.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattslater/2009/11/what_football_can_learn_from_r.html

 

That percentage is misleading. Black players, more often then not, come from abroad meaning they go back to their home country once retired to work or even go to another country. Of that percentage, how many black players are English? That would give more accurate readings

 

How many have done/doing their coaching badges etc ? Cos if the vast majority are, and then being denied jobs there's something amiss. Or do black players think 'there's no chance of getting a job so **** it' ?

I dunno the answers but as you say - the numbers show that something's going awry.

 

I agree with that to a large degree. I don't know if most back players come from abroad, but some certainly do and a lot of those leave for home when their playing career in England is finished. However, we must also remember that some white players do the same. It would be interesting to see what percentage of British players are black. I think you're right in that that would give a more accurate reading. I don't know if such figures are available. I'm sure someone will have them somewhere.

 

Load of rubbish Sol. They get exactly the same opportunity as everyone else.

Noel Blake is head of the U19 for a start!

Keith Alexander who sadly passed away. Keith Curle has had plenty of management jobs. Terry Connor is at Ipswich with Mick. Darren Moore was at blackburn.

 

I would think the vast majority of black players playing in the football league would class themselves as 'black british'.

Personally, I think we are still at the back end of the race issue from the 80-90s etc and as managers tend to be older the fall out has lasted further. Some of the players like Sol and Ian Wright etc were brought up in a society which was still very un-PC and with all the changes to mindset over that period, I think the benefit will come shortly.

Black players who are playing now or much more recently will have spent almost all of their careers in an age where they were accepted for who they are whatever their race, which means they will been encouraged to do their coaching badges and they will have felt more secure in doing so.

I reckon in 10 years the percentages would be more linked to the amount of black players we have playing now.

 

Nail, head.

 

Does anybody really listen to Sol Campbell? He's a bit of an attention seeker and he doesn't always research what it is that he feels the need to preach about at any given time; his statements about bodybags and the Euros confirmed that.

 

Makes sense. I hope it turns out to be right.

 

Sol always plays the race-card at every opportunity.

I actually get sick of hearing him, he's not actually doing himself any favours.

 

Me too although having sat in the ponte last week just behind the goal with my 8 year old lad I have to admit I was shocked to hear some of the racist ***** openly shouted from the stands, not from one person or one group but lots of people from different groups. It was quite shocking.

I know the North still is coming to terms with multiculturalism but **** me sideways, it was like listening to Rising damp, but with lots of shouting and swearing.

It makes my **** itch to think people still hold those thoughts after all these years, the silly B.astards.

 

Combat 18 stand.

I'm barred from taking little'un in there when she wants to start going.

 

Another point here is that poor old Sol is complaining that football is racist.

Well the way I look at it, he has taken a very good living from the beautiful game.

If he is so keen to get involved in Coaching, then why not get involved at grass roots level. The country is crying out for qualified coaches to educate and improve our kids. That said, getting involved at grass roots level, he won't get paid will he, he'll have to do it for nowt........exactly like I do !!!

 

As far as I know no-one who has applied unsuccessfully for a managerial job in football has claimed that they have been discriminated against. The law is on the side of any black player who believes he is discriminated against on racial grounds when applying for a managers post.

 

Have any of these people done their UEFA Pro License? I get the impression Campbell hasn't. There's been little interest in coaching from other high profile black players such as Ferdinand, Ian Wright, Clark Clarlisle, Ledley King et al.


When I look at the older black players in the game none really scream out to me as someone I could see getting involved in coaching once their playing careers are over.