East Coast Main Line On Track For Privatisation, Despite £208m Profit

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  1. tyr

    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    Nope
     
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    You make big money, you go into politics or buy political leverage to ensure you make more money. It's simple, follow the money. There is where all the questions start and end. There's a wonderful short novel by Leo Tolstoy entitled "How much land does a man need?" In it a man is told by a farmer that he can have all the land he likes if he can walk from his farmhouse and make a complete circle. Everything inside it big or small, will be his. He has a day to do it and the man sets off and walks and walks, but he wants too much land, he's too greedy and in the stifling mid day sun he fails to make it back to the farmhouse and ends up dead, with no land to his name.

    How much money does someone need? Once you have a roof over your head, basic essentials etc, why do you need another £10m? Another £100m? Another £1bn? Is it a silly little game you're playing? Money for money's sake? Greed? What could you do with the money, if you chose to, to make a better society, a better country, a better world?

    Those people aren't going to 'give it away' because they don't need it - because they're addicts. Some might say at the very top of the pyramid it's a pathological addiction and that these people are extreme narcissists whom in the case of the stock market players pathologically gamble other peoples money for the chance to make more money. These people use the labour of others (us) to increase and maintain their wealth to the detriment of everyone else. "They provide jobs" - sure they do, but you see what happens when they can make more money by shipping them abroad or buying machines to do it more efficiently? They lay people off. We're all commodities, not people, commodities - that can be bought and sold on the labour market. And if we're not efficient enough, then you'll be looking for a job, told that you're a scrounger by the same MP's and ministers who helped engineer your job loss in the first place.

    Of course you might be one of the lucky ones who makes good in life, the one who says "I grafted for it, why cant others?" As if everyone has exactly the same chances in life, the same opportunities the same lucky break. It's a bit of a lottery and the wealthy and powerful use that notion of "the poor boy from the run down estate who made good" to keep everyone hoping, believing in the silly little game that's been played out in front of us all. Maybe it's true. the 1% are just really hard workers and the rest incapable of getting a job or making it big.

    It's so simple, yet so powerful and so utterly stupid.

    Answers?

    Many, but one is to stop voting for the people who control the house. It's rigged and as long as you keep playing, you're an addict, just like them.
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    We go to work...and we look at your curtains drawn...Cameron.
     
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    What are trying to say
     
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    A mass turn out of voters spoiling their ballots in protest at the political direction and choices on offer would give the politicians a problem in as much as they would have no legitimacy. They can spin away the idea of the "disillusioned voter" and "reconnecting with the voters" when the turn out is poor, but spoiling a ballot on a premise of "no confidence in those we pay and elect to run our country", would give them a much bigger problem.
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    From this thread...http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showth...ing-down-the-tubes-then&p=1371846#post1371846

    Make your mind up, retired or redundant.

    Either way I'm not sure many posties earn enough to save £250 per month out of their wages on what is a gamble.

    And if that investment rose like your suggesting then it's being massively undervalued in the original sale.
    Mmmmmm, wonder why that is?

    Surely it wouldn't be to ensure their mates in the city made plenty more dosh would it ;)
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    I was made redundant but chosen not to seek further employment
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    As I indicated the profit made from the free and free and matching deals will generate more than enough profit to fund the sharesave scheme
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    Tyrone Pat..Tyrone Pat...Tyrone Pat and his black and white cat...
     
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    Re: Political dogma getting in the way of what's right for the country

    Edit: Sorry. Tyrone's inability to quote properly made me think that was an absolute gem from him.
     
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