the Clubs statement ( re the pyrotechnics)

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    I respect and understand the need for the club to do this. But why have we not had a statement from the Stewarding Firm and the Police... they were the ones responsible for all the spectators safety, security and behaviour... the club are told by the Police what levels they must hire and pay for , and they do so. Therefore for me all such incident is the responsibility of the two bodies I have mentioned, Not only at Oakwell but at ALL venues sporting or otherwise.
     
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    No, safety of spectators is ultimately the responsibility of the Club.
     
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    for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    are supposed to be trained in that field. The SY Police advise the club as to the levelling of stewarding and Policing required before each game. The Club HAS to comply or the Police have the power to call it off. A friend of mine is a senior steward in the Millenium Stadium at Cardiff... he has informed of all this. Also its not just for the sporting events there its for ALL events... Concerts, the Red Bull X fighters .. Monster trucks you name it... Sorry fella the duty is still at the feet of the Stewarding company and the SY Police ... just like it was all those years ago at Hillsborough.
     
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    Re: for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    If thats the case why will the FA fine the club, instead of the stewarding company and police.

    Because fan safety is the clubs direct responsibility.
     
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    Re: for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    redarmy990 you are right, the F A regard crowd safety as the responsibility of the Club.
     
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    Re: for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    It is but the club pay a company and the police to do the job for them so they must take responsibility as well.

    If I were to pay you to do a service and you didn't do it I'd expect you to take some responsibility.
     
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    Re: for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    everyone looks to someone to blame these days. but let's be clear - if some t.wat hadn't brought a smoke bomb into the ground in the first place, none of this would have happened.

    in all honesty - what could stewards, or police, or the Club have done to prevent this? body searches, scanners, x-ray machines? is that really the way we want football to go? just to manage the risk of some scrote being a kn0bhead?

    any of those things will raise the price of tickets and make us feel like criminals. that's really not the match day experience i'm looking for. the Club and police should come down like a ton of bricks on anyone who gets caught doing this. hopefully that will be a deterrent to others.
     
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    Re: for which purpose they hire the stewards.. who by the way

    Totally agree Tomfun, if someone is determined to bring a smoke bomb into the ground they can do that. The best deterrent would be to identify the idiot(s) who brought the smoke bomb in on Saturday and prosecute them and make an example of them and ban them from Oakwell for life.
    My brother sits in the ESL near the away end. On Saturday he had to move as that section was closed on the ADVICE of the police. I think 'advice' is the key word - police advise the club and the club makes the final decision. Same occurs in bad weather, the police 'advise' the club as to whether or not the game can go ahead.
    My guess is that the Contract made between Club, Police and Stewards re. crowd safety will abrogate the Police from ultimate responsibility for what happens at Oakwell.
     
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