Disgraceful stoppage

I think you're misunderstanding quite a bit of what's being said here fella. You stated that Groves 'won the fight fair and square'. He didn't. Yes I think the ref stepped in too early, yes Groves had a handy lead. But George Groves did not win that fight. He was winning up to the point the ref stepped in, but once it's stopped the score cards are an irrelevance. Nobody knows what would have happened had the fight been allowed to go on, but we all saw what went before and I don't think anyone is saying George Groves wasn't excellent. Froch was also impressive but for completely different reasons and the early stoppage shouldn't taint the win. It wasn't his fault the ref did what he did.

 

That would be a shame if it was true, Froch deserves to be recognised as one of our better champions in my opinion.

 

Loads of good points here, none more so than the poor officiating one. I think that the rounds Froch won were close, Groves was winning his rounds convincingly. In a 10 points must system this means that the points don't always add up to the perception of who is bossing the fight. But to only have had 1 point in it at the time it was stopped was poor at the very least.

 

The judges scores having Groves winning by two seemed about right. It most definately wasn't as one sided as Jim Watt and the like would have you think. But as much as i'm a Froch fan the Donny ref stepped in miles too early. Groves was still defending himself. It showed how Carl is a million miles away from beating Andre Ward if they fight again. Groves deserves a rematch. Froch took him lightly and should have been in the gym more rather than trying to become a minor celebrity appearing on Stepping Out with his girlfriend.

 

The nails got hammered last night... Foster is ok refereeing amateur fights ..THIS was a world title fight... I have seen Foster jumpin too manytimes...as soon as I saw he was the ref I feared the worst... it was a great fight spoiled by an incompetant ref... NO ONE knows how the fight WOULD have finished .. but WE and in particular the boxers deserved to allow it to come to a satisfactory conclusion... Great fight guys...Howard Foster.... go and referee kids boxing

 

I guess the win puts this debate to bed once and for all

 

Six months on, post fight, and the finish aside I'd say my prediction was broadly accurate.

I did actually really enjoy the fight tonight but it was certainly not so much of a tear up as the last - probably less of a spectacle to the casual watchers.

The pace was a lot slower early on, Groves was looking like strengthening in the seventh and eighth before being blown out of the ring with that shot. But I had him behind, by a few too. And Froch wouldn't have lost all the remaining rounds, he generally finishes strongly

So even without the brilliant finishing shot, I think the fight was Froch's anyway. Groves probably knows that too, he said himself he needs to go away and step back down a level to prove he deserves another title shot. By which time Mr Froch will probably have added a few million to his balance by taking a fight in Las Vegas, and then retire.

 

Not been interested in boxing for a while now, I saw all the hype on the BBS and watched the
U tube highlights of the last fight between these blokes and thought it would be worth watching.
First of all it was not on pay per view on this side of the Atlantic and right away I could see why.
One average boxer (Groves) and one half decent one (Froch) and I'm only calling him half decent
because of that stunning right hook that took Groves out.
The ref made the right decision to stop it right away the lad could have been seriously hurt if he let it go on.
The American commentator's who by the way were sat in a studio in Las Vegas, like me raved about
the punch that Froch landed but were not impressed with the boxing on show.
They were very impressed at the way that two average fighters were hyped up to be able
to pull in 80,000 crowds though.
Sorry for sounding like an English footy fan and all that but a poor product I'm afraid considering
how much money it made. My idea of boxing is the likes of Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard so those
that followed these boxers will know where I'm coming from.

 

The Americans, Roy Jones in particular called it right. The last fight terrible decision, but this one was never in doubt.
I only had one pair of beer glasses on while I watched it I'm guessing you had a few pair on

 

If they think Carl Froch is average then they don't know as much about boxing as they think they do.

 

Isn't Froch world champion?!

 

I disagree with this post. Just because both fighters weren't going hell for leather, and trying to knock each others heads off, why does it make it a "poor product" It was a tactical fight, both fighters had a game plan, which led to them cancelling each other out for large parts. Two average fighters? I maybe agree that George Groves is not quite ready for the world stage, but Carl Froch has fought the best the division has had to offer, he hasnt ducked a fight, you never see him vacating a belt! He is simply put a World Class Super Middleweight, and will be remembered as one of Britains Greatest Ever Champions. Were your American friends by any chance impressed with the undercard fights on show? Bearing in mind none of them went the distance? And there was some classy stuff on show! Anthony Joshua's speed and power, Kevin Mitchells Heart and Desire, James Degales unorthodox Classy Southpaw Style and A interesting Tactical "chess match" between Froch and Groves. I would say there is something for everyone there, and Hearn and Co. put on a Fantastic Show. Well done.

 

The American fighters have been ***** for years. For every Mayweather there's a hundred Lacy's.

We've been blessed over the last thirty years, certainly at middle/super middleweight to have had so many amazing talents represent the UK and Ireland. Benn, Watson, Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe and Froch.

I am biased, but I'll always believe Calzaghe was the best. But Froch is certainly cementing a legacy that will stand up to Joe's, despite losing a couple of fights. Froch has taken on all comers, most in their own backyard. And, taken on fighters in their pomp.

He needs to swerve DeGale, and go fight Ward and Kessler again, before retiring.



As for the fight last night as a spectacle, I found it riveting. A game of chess. Typical rematch. And we saw one of the best knockouts of all time. I'm only disappointed that it's all over.

 

Wasn't Gonzales an unbeaten rated American? DeGale absolutely caned him. Whitey, you might be right about Froch avoiding DeGale, but I'm not sure he'd fight Kessler again. Ward on the other hand Froch might want it, but it would mean he ends his career with a defeat. Ward is currently head and shoulders above any other Supermiddle imho, last time out Froch was outboxed and then bullied. I can't see how Froch beats him.

 

Ay he is, but there's probably a few more out there aswell. How many world champions does boxing have these days for each of the micro weights?
Good on him though he's making a good living out of it.

 

Fair point Loko but the Americans have produced the way better fighters than the rest of the world and I do remember
the Americans heaping praise on Calzaghe though.
For me the best ever performance by an English boxer was Lloyd Honeygan who was the rank outsider iwent into Don Curry's back yard
when he was best pound for pound boxer in the world at the time and gave him a lesson.