Given up listening to him after last night he full of *****, "you can't give people like me a free shot its dangerous" "i hit him with 4 or 5 unanswered shots" ho are like laking on M1 int it, 4or5 unanswered shots and not a wobble in Groves legs he was getting hit and hurt but he wasn't in as bad a state as he was when he got knocked down a few years ago,
Only thing the ref stopped was, groves getting a big pasting. wish the red had let the fight carry on and let Froch wipe the floor with him. Then we wouldn't have had all this nonesense about the ref stopping groves from winning. groves wouldn't have lasted that round never mind 3 more
You just can't possibly say that. Your comment is just as bad as the one you're arguing against. Groves was in a far more desperate position against Kenny Anderson and that was in the second round, but came back to win.
sorry andy mate, there's just no way you can know that. groves might have swung a punch in response and knocked him out.
Would have had to be a great punch. He was ducked down running for cover to the other side of the ring
Then yo me that's not a far worse position. It was in the second. He had just done eight rounds of incredibly good hard work.
Have you seen the Anderson fight? Groves was dead on his feet, he wasn't last night. Froch had just taken 8 rounds of a severe beating. His punches weren't causing anywhere near as much damage as in the Bute fight, as an example.
Would be better to compare the fight against the blokes who's name I forget where froch took a beating for 11 rounds was way behind on points and won via stoppage
Jermaine Taylor? Froch didn't take a beating for 11 rounds. He was down on the cards, but didn't take a beating. Even the knockdown in that fight was a flash one, Froch was never in trouble. Not like last night where his legs were completely gone in the first and he was saved by the bell.
Nowt to do with that at all, more to do with the fact he's a complete cu'nt, don't get me wrong i love watching boxing and he's a top class boxer and a real warrior, and fantastic to watch and i like to see him win if he's fighting against someone from another country and fights well, but he's also an absolute arsehole, i've avoided most the pre match build up and post match interviews when i could because its so cringe worthy listening to the pr!ck, i wanted him to lose last night but that was only because i've watched. groves and really like the bloke as a boxer and i hope and think he'll be a world champion one day .
But this was froch not Anderson. The fight was turning. Groves had hit froch with his best, he wasn't gonna stop it. Froch was getting on top, groves was taking some heavy shots and didn't look as if he could fight back at that moment. Ref should have let it go on longer but I am convinced froch would have stopped him.
Did he? Not much exaggeration there. He was down on the scorecards but it was nowhere near a severe beating.
You just can't say that though, that's my point. Froch's trying to claim he gave Groves a beating for three rounds, which just isn't the case. He didn't even win the 8th round when you watch it again, so the tide was only turning slowly. That is the most fatigued Froch has ever been, the punches he caught Groves with would have KO'd most people - had they being thrown by a fresh Carl Froch. Froch might have gone on to stop him. Groves might have taken a knee once he stood up straight after spinning round and being grabbed by the ref, and at 25 those eight seconds could have cleared his head. All hypothetical, which is why I'm disagreeing with anyone who tries to state something as fact. I actually think Groves, taking an 8 count, would have survived that round. He might then have lost every round until the end of the fight, which then creates the travesty that with that scenario he would have lost on the cards.
I haven't stated anything as fact. Just that I am convinced froch was turning the tide and groves did look in a spot of trouble to me. It was stopped too early though, anyone doubting that is wrong. But so is anyone saying groves has been robbed.
There's no doubt it was stopped prematurely. Groves was robbed of the chance to conjure up a second wind and realise the dream of becoming a world champion in his 20th fight. That's not to say he would have actually gone on to do that, but he was robbed of the chance.
Come on, he's never been hit with that many power punches in his entire career. If you combine both Kessler fights and add the Ward fight, Groves landed more power punches in 8 rounds than in those fights. Froch was visibly hurt on three occasions for the first time in his career. Without his reputation, he could even have had the ref call it off in the first round. I've never seen Froch take four or five punches in a row without answering back. It was a severe beating, but it's a testament to him as a fighter that he was still there to put it on Groves in round nine.
"Froch is an absolute warrior", its said time and time again, and he is, the reason we know this is because he's shown time and time again he can be up against it and taking punishment and continue to the bitter end even after being rocked he'll keep coming back and swinging and drag himself back into the fight and he's done this from the exact same position Groves was in when the fight was stopped, i feel Groves was denied the opportunity to prove that he could also take punishment drag himself through the hard spells in the fight and be classed as a warrior