Micheal Adibo watshisname

http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showthread.php?200601-Marine-Blackman/page2

You clearly didn't read my post which said I was uncomfortable with people threatening a poster on this board with violence, or suggesting that was what other marines would do to that poster for expressing the view it was murder. I actually went on to say I wasn't sure it was murder or should be treated in that way. Interestingly the next post in the thread was from an actual serving member of the armed forces who said that he, and his colleagues, thought it was murder.

But carry on.

 

I will ,I didn't see anybody threatening anybody else and the serving guys thought it wrong, not murder as I said. But I did say it shouldn't have come to public light and dealt with internally , as most affair should be. War is hell and has different rules , the minute you start inviting the PC brigade in your gonna lose out .the marine did exactly what shouve been done, if the police had done the same we wouldn't be talking about a court case.

 

Isn't this whole thread about somebody from the other side of this war killing a british soldier? Personally I think the only thing they did wrong was let the footage get out. Other than that war is hell and has different rules and all they did was kill one of the enemy during a time of war.

Of course I don't really think that. I think that they are murdering scum but then thats exactly what I said about the marine and got condemned for saying it. Funny how it works isn't it

 

Difference is lee was walking down the street to get a pizza or summat,this insurgent was in the middle of a firefight.trying to kill,different rules , situation, as well you know

 

Only thing worth reading in this thread. I have no sympathy whatsoever for these people. They however have the same legal rights as everyone else.

 

Both completely different situations so you can have opposing views to the two events.

 

What about the rights of the family of Lee Rigby? Everybody knows these two are guilty, there is no doubt, so why are we wasting time and money going through this charade? Just because the law says so doesn’t make it right. These two don't deserve oxygen never mind a trial.

 

Because we don't live in a country where people are imprisoned without a trial thank god. Whatever someone has done that is the start of a very slippery slope. You only have to look at history for that or the practices in sone countries around the world.

 

I'm not suggesting it becomes common practise just an exception to the rule in very extreme circumstances and only when, as in this case, there is absolutely no doubt. There could be an enquiry into the events, facts, motives, etc in private if necessary.

 

be carefull Mario,you'll soon be getting branded an edl moron or some other racist.

 

I can see this as a point of view. But then you get to the stage where the definition of extreme circumstances becomes blurred or someone with political ends is defining it. Say the EDL swept to electoral power I suspect their definition of extreme circumstance is very different to that of your average Lib Dem. my knowledge of Pinochet's Chile is blurry as it's sometime since I've studied it but I believe that initially the rule of law was abandoned around a similar idea of extreme circumstances. The rule of law and fair trial has served us well as a nation for many years so why pander to the extremists and give them what they want? Why let them change us? Do you also not think that abandoning the law in this way may very well serve as a tool for recruiting extremists?

 

Agree entirely. There really is no need for a full trial in this case. The judges could review the evidence in a private setting and pass down verdict and sentence. This trial is just a charade that is being used by these monsters to spout their ****. Is it inconceivable that there should be exceptional cases where the usual process is changed?

 

I will add that people are already convicted of criminal charges without a full trial every day in the magistrates courts.

 

Spare a thought for the 5 Prison Officers still suspended and under Police investigation for completing their duties as Prison Officers and removing him from an area he wasn't supposed to be in ! Tw@t !!

 

Say I bump the missis off god knows I'm tempted occasionally. Afterwards I'm full of remorse I ring the coppers up and say I've killed the missis I did it's me. Do I get a trial or am I just shunted into the nick? Maybe there's extenuating circumstances maybe she chucked out my DVD of Ronnie Glavin goals. Maybe not.

 

That's true to an extent for minor offences though magistrates courts are being steered more and more towards family law and away from criminal cases.

 

We've been through this before and I realise we aren't going to change your mind, but thankfully what you are suggesting will never happen.

The dangers in what you are suggesting are multiple, yes you can say the judge can make an assessment on extreme cases but that then comes to the definition of that.

It's a small step from that to Guantanemo and things like this
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/kalief-browder_n_4373544.html

As for the cost to you - you can probably claim your 1p from somewhere, but you'll need to give change.

 

Is there loads of witnesses and cctv footage of you doing it? Getting a bit silly.

 

That's right they do. But after a week he said guilty me laud. Bang done. Other wise it's a waste of money. I'm just waiting for they verdict , guilty , life imprisonment, out in 10 to 15 years is that justice no. But the happy clappers are suggesting you can't imprison someone for life without the possibility of parole human rights infringement

 

Just hope they don't get sent to one of those prisons run by Muslim gangs where they'll get protection.