Actually Tomi, 'They' are the ones whose intolerance of others would extend to determining which words/opinions are acceptable and which are not, and go as far as actually criminalising certain language/thought in order to try to indoctrinate the masses in what they feel is the 'right way of thinking', and woe betide anyone that does not share their views. So in fact 'They' are pretty much the very antithesis of those who use phrases like 'PC brigade' or 'PC gone mad'.
I'm in danger of depriving others of what sorry? No idea what you meant to say there. I'm pretty certain that I've said say what you want, but don't expect not to be pulled up on it by people who have a different opinion to yours. Also, I'm fairly certain that by group you meant of people all belonging to a certain race, age, sex etc. and not people in the same family, and you are now changing it to suit your argument.
Little point trying to argue against flawed logic. For what it's worth all your responses are spot on (to anyone who doesn't want society to continue on the downward spiral it has been going. Or pc brigade as they are now known as!)
No!! "Group" could be any 'group' Football team fans, family, I have not changed anything '"to suit". You are really struggle with this debating lark don't you?
It's unclear what you mean to be fair. Anyhow i wouldnt report someone for being racist, that's freedom of speech. But it comes with a responsiblity. And if you're going to make remarks that are clearly racist, then expect to be pulled up on them by someone who is clearly not bothered about racism, but more concerned with being PC. WTF?
Not as much as you are struggling to type in coherent sentences. I'm not sure how well this idea would stand up in court, if groups can be as tenuous as you like. 'We're both fans of puppies as oppose to kittens, I'm allowed to stick up for him officer.'
And the original poster fails to remember that history is littered with people standing up for what is right and what they believe in despite not being linked by race, religion or beliefs. We would still have slavery if wilberforce hadn't campaigned for its abolishment. The OP would probably have him stood by and do nothing seeing as other people keeping slaves didn't directly effect him or his family. This goes down as the most ridiculous and unintelligent topic on the bbs.
What do you mean? It's brilliant! You can stick up for old/ginger/black/diasbled people as long as they support Barnsley, if they support Rochdale, they're on their own!
Oh FOR GOD'S SAKE! Made Ridiculous by the spurious comparisons between words and actions!! Slavery is nothing to do with people taking offence at a few tasteless jokes. You really do need to get some sense of perspective and stop painting a picture of me as some uncaring, insensitive, couldn't give a s*it about his fellow man/woman just because I find people who constantly find offence at WORDS . YOUR LOGIC IS FLAWED because you cannot make that distinction between words and deeds in your argument. Slavery was (and is) abhorrent. as was apartheid which many of us old enough to remember actively protested against. Pity we cant settle this over a pint! Unfortunately I now live in Italy
You dug the hole for yourself with your opening statement. What other conclusion could be drawn? You attacked those who try to defend the rights of others with this ridiculous, shallow, right wing stereo-type of a 'do-gooder'. (In an attic??!!) A person shouldn't be permitted to speak for a victimised or persecuted minority? There are several words for that philosophy, the kindest one is censorship. It is how change is affected. It is how serfdom, slavery and child labour were abolished in this country. It's how we have a vote and civil liberties, it is how we have safe working environments and a living wage. It's how we have the Welfare State and the National Health Service. There's the work of your 'do-gooders'. Anyway, it's your hole not mine.
Using this logic - I could walk down a busy street full of Christmas shoppers and see and hear someone being racially abused. We all stand there, don't say anything and don't report, because, well we can't. The person being racially abused, probably feeling that no one cared, doesn't report it to the police. End result - well it never actually happened. There was no offence because it wasn't reported.
Slavery, believe it or not, wasn't always seen as abhorrent - it was accepted as being a normal part of certain countries cultures. That only changed because, in part, people spoke up about it. So you're argument is a bit wobbly.
See the indifference of the bystander, the absolution of responsibility and consequence, the creation of out groups etc... Couldn't happen to me, he says.... [video=youtube;ckOGRzAcwig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOGRzAcwig[/video]
I thought grown ups stood up to what they believe is wrong. That's what I was taught. I was being facetious about the beating up bit, but I'd certainly say something. Ignoring behaviour that is unacceptable is, I believe, the act of a coward not a grown up.
If they don't mind of course as it is none of my business and they can fight their own battles. It is not for me to defend them -they are not helpless! You are saying in your comment that YOU find the term WOP offensive. How do you know my mates would? This is my whole point. Indirectly people like you are telling me what I should not say and think which is not a whole lot different from Nazi Germany. As another poster said my argument is not that Political correctness is wrong but making the use of certain words illegal is not going to achieve anything and certainly not going to change attitudes. The line not to cross is when those words translate into actions. One poster has said if he was offended by racist comments in a pub he would challenge the speakers and went as far as to say take physical action. That actually makes him worse than them. 'Sticks and stones etc.'